Talk:妖怪

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Two sections up, a request to verify that "yāoguài" meant "a supernatural being, a monster, an apparition; bogy; goblin; demon; a evil spirit" was struck because the hanzi verified the pinyin: but the hanzi was created by the same IP, and the definition (which is what I imagine Eiríkr was requesting verification of) still needs verifying... - -sche (discuss) 03:30, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

zh.WP's entry on 妖怪 links to en.WP's entry w:Yōkai "ghost, phantom, strange apparition". Perhaps explaining why our entry lists so many translations, w:zh:妖怪 says "在歐洲語言中没有完全對應於妖怪的词汇，僅有意義相近的詞彙，例如英語的 monster（怪物）、ghost、spook（鬼）、sprite（妖精）、giant（巨人）、undead（不死生物）、devil（恶魔）、demon、fiend、evil spirit（邪靈）、elf（精灵）、goblin（哥布林）、bogy、fairy（小仙子）。" (roughly: "No European language has vocabulary which fully corresponds to this term...") - -sche (discuss) 03:35, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

I've got the following from well-known dictionaries: monster, devil, demon, goblin, bogy. Just 妖 also gives phantom.

The Chinese Wiktionary also translates into Russian: "оборотень" (werewolf), "нечистая сила" (impure force, devilry); "призрак" (phantom, ghost), "привидение" (apparition, ghost). They all kind of similar and one can tell that it doesn't mean a very specific supernatural creature and also related to Asian mythology, not just European. The choice of words seems to be okey. See also 妖怪#Japanese. The EDICT Japanese dictionary gives "ghost; apparition; phantom; spectre; specter; demon; monster; goblin". --Anatoli ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 03:49, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

This is an umbrella term for any supernatural being in Mandarin. I don't like the definitions as they seem to alternate between specific creatures and creatures in general, when in fact it simply means the latter. They only serve to confuse people. I will simplify the definitions if no one else has any objections. I have also previously issued two warnings to this anon user not to touch the Mandarin entries as he/she seems to make the simplest and most ridiculous of mistakes. Jamesjiao → ^{T ◊ C} 04:15, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

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Per the above discussion, I've detagged the entry, keeping it with a modified definition. (Alternatively, if you prefer to think of it this way, I've deleted the RFVed definition, and added a new, different definition.) - -sche (discuss) 23:49, 23 October 2013 (UTC)