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Entry is now a mess. Anon IP contribs seem to have completely invalidated the translations? --Connel MacKenzie 07:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I looked at it but I couldn’t see what you mean. The page looks all right to me. I didn’t see any incorrect translations. —Stephen 12:12, 29 July 2006 (UTC)


God etymologyEdit

Good morning.

What do you think of this theory ?

  • Observation N°1
  • In latin, 2 is duo, twice is bis from duis , and viginti seems to come from disappeared duiginti*
  • Observation N° 2
  • In Greek, ballô, iallô, pallô mean "trow". Bdallô means milk ( a cow). In many languages(as in modern french)milk is pull ( traire comes from trahere,). We can consider that we can add "bdallô" to the list.
  • Observation n° 3
  • In Greek, Iacchos is a nickname of Bacchos. With observation n° 2, we can consider it's a deformation of his name.
  • Observation n°4
  • Between bos and bouis, syllable "ui" disappears as in "amasse" coming from "amauisse" (plusferfect infinitive)
  • Reasoning :

1st example : Bacterion( stick)in Greek is near to iactare( latin)( throw) 2nd example :

  • If we add syllable "vi" to bonus(good), we obtain bouinus, that means related to a beef.( no doubt the meat)
  • If we replace b with i, we obtain iouinus( related to Jupiter)

We know that In Greek, one of a nickname of Zeus is theotauros( god-Bull)

  • If we approximate the pronounciation, we obtain iuvenis ( young)
  • If we cut, we obtain, Iu-Venus( Zeus, Venus)
  • if we replace "b" by "du", we obtain duouinus( related to two)( beefs were often joined with a yoke)
  • if we push the analysis, we can find iunginus( related to joining)

In one trow, we've got 6 meanings,( three certain, one dubious, two intuitive) all related in a way to the meanings of " bonus"

  • Observation n°5
  • In latin, haedus means goat, and in Greek, hêdus means pleasant. ( -->hedonism)
  • In English, good, goat and God seam very similar.
  • If we replace this analogy in the context of the previous reasoning, good is the adjective related to God and to the meat of goat, and goat a synonym of God.

For instance, in Matthew 25, final doom, false gods are called goats. Can anybody tell me if there is anything about that anywhere or must I write my own article ? --90.3.114.109 10:29, 25 April 2009 (UTC)--Mark Mage 10:30, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Looks like original research to me, rather than attested information. BTW, the goats referred to in Mat 25 are people, not gods, who stubbornly refuse to do God's will. Furthermore, the Greek word used in the original manuscripts is "eriphia", which literally means "kid" as far as I am aware. -- ALGRIF talk 11:59, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
  • The "G" letter evolved from "C" and "Y". It appears that G letter pronounced as Y in ancient time. That term might come from "YOD" of aramaya or aramaik.In ancient hebrew the name of GOD always start with the letter Y!
    But god comes via a Germanic language from a PIE root, and Hebrew and Aramaic are not PIE languages; they're Semitic, which is a different language group. The word from which "God" derives existed in Germanic languages while the Germans were still pagan. When the Germans converted to Christianity, the pagan word was given a new meaning. --EncycloPetey 02:01, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

good etymologyEdit

What about the Old English word for "good"?-VitaminN

The Old English word for good is gōd, and has a separate etymology from God. —Stephen 19:58, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

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GodEdit

Unnecessary duplication. Nearly same meaning for God and god in languages listed. Capitalization is optional. Lom Konkreta 17:17, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Strong oppose. Also if capitalization is optional, then both are valid. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:43, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
This is not like Bog/bog. In English, God is an entirely different word from god. —Stephen (Talk) 04:29, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Oppose. --Yair rand (talk) 17:09, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Strong oppose. The descriptive lines are very different. A small "g" god can even be a human being or a statue. This is not the case for the entry at "God", for instance. -- ALGRIF talk 17:23, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Oppose per MG and Algrif. DCDuring TALK 18:05, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Kept as status quo, striking; already detagged (or maybe never tagged).​—msh210 (talk) 16:59, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

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GodEdit

Sense:

  1. A deity that is the focus of certain linguistic conventions.
    1. A deity that is often referred to by masculine pronouns, not necessarily inferring that the speaker believes that God is male.
    2. A deity that is referred to by pronouns that begin with a capital letter, as a sign of respect, in many languages written in Latin script. In English, these would include He, Him, His and Himself.
      • 1983, Alan Hart, Spinoza's Ethics, Part I and II: a platonic commentary, volume 1, Brill Archive, ISBN 9789004069152, page 43:
        But, the individual entities of that order depend upon God and His laws for their existence.

We don't include as a sense of ship "A vehicle that is the focus of certain linguistic conventions: a vehicle referred to by feminine pronouns", and rightly not: it's just not a definition.​—msh210 (talk) 18:18, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

  • Yikes. Delete. Ƿidsiþ 18:48, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
  • Delete. (I don't think any of the subsenses in that entry should be there.) --Yair rand 18:50, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Move to usage notes. --Daniel 18:52, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Strongly agree with all of you, not a definition, not even close. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:46, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Deleted per, at least, the early consensus. The linguistic facts were moved to an "Usage notes" section of the same entry. --Daniel 17:38, 3 June 2011 (UTC)