Talk:Mid-Atlantic

RFV discussion: April–October 2012

This entry has survived Wiktionary's verification process (permalink).

Please do not re-nominate for verification without comprehensive reasons for doing so.

---

Mid-Atlantic

A location the middle of the Atlantic Really? -- Liliana • 23:05, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Good tag. Also, the adjective shouldn't have comparative and superlative forms.--BenjaminBarrett12 (talk) 00:59, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, really. It's used both in literal ways — for example, the "Mid-Atlantic Ridge" really is a mid-ocean ridge in the Atlantic Ocean — and in figurative or idiomatic ways — for example, "Mid-Atlantic English" (or a "Mid-Atlantic accent") is a variety (or accent) of English that combines elements of British English and American English (or of British and American accents). But we're also missing some key senses: in the U.S., the Mid-Atlantic states are the states on the Eastern Seaboard that are south of New England but north of . . . whatever the states south of them are called. —Ruakh_TALK 01:08, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

I'll be darned. "In the Mid-Atlantic" gets quite a bit of action; a lot of times, it seems to be short for "Mid-Atlantic region." --BenjaminBarrett12 (talk) 01:15, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Cited — very thoroughly, if I do say so myself — but I'm not sure how to handle the capitalization. This sense is usually uncapitalized, and the other sense is usually yes-capitalized, but there are plenty of exceptions in both directions. —Ruakh_TALK 15:14, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, thoroughly. Why not put each set of full senses under its most common spelling and add the other spelling as a definiens? That might be better than {{form of|alternative capitalization of}}. I suppose it isn't consistent with the approach we use in more normal situations, but perhaps we should try something out before trying to get consistent.

I think recognizing and documenting differential preference for one capitalization rather than another is a not-uncommon aspect of supporting names of specific entities. Whether in general the game is worth the candle for Wiktionary, I don't know. DCDuring TALK 16:25, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Those are nice citations. I have one quibble, about the 2002 citation for meaning 2-4. I think it should actually be under meaning 1. The speaker, Juliet, is mentioned as being in Rhode Island here. --BenjaminBarrett12 (talk) 02:55, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

...RFV-passed, IMO. - -sche (discuss) 19:52, 1 October 2012 (UTC)