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Currently has the U.S. pronunciation with stress on (neither? or) the final syllable. Is this correct? I have no statistics on use by the public (of course), but I always thought the stress was intial (as, indeed, our IPA indicates the Brits pronounce it).—msh210℠ (talk) 02:57, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- Now Angr has merged the accent tags, claiming that both the IPA and the sound file are both US and UK, but they're different: the IPA has primary stress and the sound file has (none? or) secondary. He's also removed the rfc tag, though the issue doesn't seem resolved to me.—msh210℠ (talk) 17:14, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- I didn't claim the sound file is both US and UK; I labeled it US. When I listen to the sound file, it sounds like she's actually putting stress on the second syllable, which must be a mistake since the word isn't pronounced that way in any variety of English. Here's a link to Merriam-Webster's sound file, pronounced by an American, where you can hear the word is stressed on the first syllable. We should probably remove this sound file and replace it with a correct one. —Angr 17:28, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- I'm sorry about the false statement and apologize.—msh210℠ (talk) 20:57, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- I agree with Angr. I've come across some other poor audio files in my time too. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:01, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've removed the pronunciation and nominated the file for deletion at the Commons. Striking.—msh210℠ (talk) 16:50, 30 January 2013 (UTC)