Talk:go hard
Latest comment: 3 years ago by Suzukaze-c in topic "be excellent"
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Good title, but the definition is completely wrong. i.e. "Go hard" means "make a great effort; put into your endeavor your all". PrussianOwl (talk) 20:50, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
{{Sofixit}}, don't delete the page. —Mahāgaja · talk 21:04, 21 February 2019 (UTC)- I agree that it can mean that, but it does not follow that in some contexts the term cannot mean something else. Before requesting deletion of the disputed sense, the usual procedure is to first issue a request for verification. --Lambiam 21:05, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- Is that all? It has other meanings. DonnanZ (talk) 21:14, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- I think the disputed sense is basically an SOP: the verb go as the copula meaning “to become” plus one of the senses of hard. Many things can go hard: “His face went hard”, “his tone went hard”. Or go can be a verb of motion: a racecar driver can “go hard through the bend”. There is also the idiom go hard on (as in, “This is the first poem I ever wrote, so please don't go hard on me.”) --Lambiam 21:23, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- And concrete goes hard when it sets. Anyway, I have better things to do, RFDing everything is not one of them. DonnanZ (talk) 21:40, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- I think the disputed sense is basically an SOP: the verb go as the copula meaning “to become” plus one of the senses of hard. Many things can go hard: “His face went hard”, “his tone went hard”. Or go can be a verb of motion: a racecar driver can “go hard through the bend”. There is also the idiom go hard on (as in, “This is the first poem I ever wrote, so please don't go hard on me.”) --Lambiam 21:23, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- Is that all? It has other meanings. DonnanZ (talk) 21:14, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- I agree, current definition is non-idiomatic, but the usage in go hard or go home is idiomatic. - TheDaveRoss 13:42, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- Have added def. of most common sense. But agree the "erection" sense is non-idiomatic (so delete).-Sonofcawdrey (talk) 00:49, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- The sense "To get an erection", which was the one present in the entry when it was RFDed, has been deleted (a while ago, by someone, see these changes). I do not see a consensus above to delete the current sense, "To strive to one's utmost; to give one's all in an endeavour, at sport, etc." I think this RFD is resolved, but please start a fresh RFD if you want the current sense/entry deleted. - -sche (discuss) 09:45, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
To add to entry edit
To add to this entry: the earliest examples of the usage of this phrase. 173.88.246.138 05:28, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
"be excellent" edit
@Suzukaze-c, is it a synonym of to rock, to rule, to kick ass? PUC – 17:13, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- @PUC I suppose so, but I only learned this phrase from the Internet, so I'm not the best judge for this. —Suzukaze-c (talk) 01:14, 3 January 2021 (UTC)