Talk:h-eoin

RFD discussion: January–February 2015

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h-eoin

Added by an editor whose userpage admits gd-0, which explains why they didn't realise that the h- is actually a part of the definite article na h-, the plural "birds" being simply eòin. --Droigheann (talk) 02:59, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

• Keep; we already have Category:Irish h-prothesized forms and Category:Welsh h-prothesized forms, so why not Scottish Gaelic ones too? It just needs to use {{h-prothesis of}}. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 20:34, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
• If Droigheann's comment is accurate, move. Apparently the underlying form before prothesis is eòin with the accent grave, so [[h-eoin]] should be at [[h-eòin]] instead. Moreover, Irish h-prothesized forms include no hyphen, as seen at [[éan#Mutation]], which leads me to wonder if Scots Gaelic h-protheses should be likewised spelled without the hyphen, suggesting that [[h-eoin]] should be at [[heòin]]. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 23:33, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
  • h-eòin is the standard spelling, but h-eoin may well be an alternative form, especially if the citation quoted is spelled correctly. H-prothesized words used to be spelled with a hyphen in Irish; the hyphen was eliminated in the Irish spelling reforms of the 1950s, but was retained in Scottish Gaelic, so *heòin is definitely wrong. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 00:12, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
• (1) Creating Category:Scottish Gaelic h-prothesized forms seems like an elegant solution to me. (2) Definitely with hyphen. (3) I don't have approach to the cited source, but given that omitting the accent would change pronunciation from /hjɔːɲ/ to /hɔɲ/, I propose either moving or classifying *h-eoin as a misspelling (we already have cànannan). A flick through Google results indicates that it mostly appears in texts which don't bother with accents at all. (One could possibly argue that *h-eoin is as bad as *heòin.) --Droigheann (talk) 23:11, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
  • I've moved it to h-eòin and tagged it as an h-prothesized form. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 21:06, 2 February 2015 (UTC)