Talk:hockey puck
Latest comment: 14 years ago by Mglovesfun in topic Deletion debate
Deletion debate edit
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SoP hockey + puck.—msh210℠ 17:48, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
- Keep seems idiomatic to some extent, like baseball bat and tennis racket. --Yair rand 17:51, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
- Hesitant. A soccer ball is a ball used for soccer, but you can use any ball for soccer without it being a soccer ball. However this seems a lot more deletable to me. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:07, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
- If that's a sufficient reason for keeping soccer ball, I can tell you that I have played icehockey with a disc sawn out of wood. Despite of that, delete, and delete for the soccer ball as well. --Hekaheka 09:56, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
- This seems more like pleonasm to me, as puck#Noun refers to the disk used in hockey, where as ball#Noun can refer to many other things. Go ahead and nominate soccer ball if you like. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:14, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
- If that's a sufficient reason for keeping soccer ball, I can tell you that I have played icehockey with a disc sawn out of wood. Despite of that, delete, and delete for the soccer ball as well. --Hekaheka 09:56, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
- Hesitant. A soccer ball is a ball used for soccer, but you can use any ball for soccer without it being a soccer ball. However this seems a lot more deletable to me. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:07, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
- Delete...doesn't seem to be a set term to me. Ƿidsiþ 12:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
- I think I like where we're going with this. To clarify the precedential value of the emerging decision:
- that "hockey" is a necessary qualifier in almost all non-ice- and non-street-hockey contexts is not relevant for CFI consideration.
- What is relevant is that in context "puck" could stand on its own to convey the meaning.
- It doesn't matter that an English speaker growing up in, say, Singapore might not have the knowledge to guess at the meaning without (or even with) the context-providing "hockey".
- Correct (point 3) Puck = Hockey puck. So "hockey" is superfluous. Delete HOWEVER, this does not mean the idea can be extrapolated to each of the various types of ball. Specifically Ball ≠ Soccer ball, whereas Football = Soccer ball. So "soccer" is needed. -- ALGRIF talk 15:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
- Incorrect. They are not equivalent as a hockey puck is just one kind of puck. Keep; as this names a particular form of puck, and not merely a puck that happens to be used in ice hockey. Note that our definitions for (deprecated template usage) puck are woefully incomplete, as the shuffleboard and air hockey senses are missing, among others. --EncycloPetey 17:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Keep - names a specific kind of puck that is used for the sport of ice hockey, so I definitely think that we should keep this term. Razorflame 13:22, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- Keep per above. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:45, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Keep Puck alone can refer to other things in Canada. And CanOD includes two senses of hockey puck, neither labelled “Cdn.” I'll try to give these entries a bit of attention. —Michael Z. 2010-03-22 16:57 z
Kept. Mglovesfun (talk) 07:50, 4 April 2010 (UTC)