Talk:isolation

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Rfv-sense "The state of one country not being allied with other countries". Isn't this isolationism? SemperBlotto 15:28, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

No, isolationism is the policy or desire of a country to not be allied with (or, also, antagonistic to?) other countries, or, I think, the philosophy behind that policy. We only have the former (the policy, not the philosophy) at [[isolationism]]. The nominated definition of isolation sounds right to me, but of course citations rule.​—msh210℠ 15:55, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Isn't this redundant to the other meanings, though? Mglovesfun (talk) 16:32, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

It's not clear that #1 applies to diplomacy, and even if it was, redundency isn't necessarily a bad thing. Purplebackpack89 18:29, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I think this is misleading. "Neutrality" is the state of not being allied in diplomatic sense. Isolation is something more severe. It's being alone in the sense that there are hardly any friendly relationships with anyone. E.g. Finland and Sweden are neutral countries, but North Korea is an isolated country. --Hekaheka 06:03, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

It is just an application of sense #1, this should be an RFD probably. - [The]DaveRoss 00:53, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

This is why we need to start using subsenses. Senses three, four, and five are all subsenses of sense one. It makes sense to define exactly what the word means in various jargon contexts, but it should be made clear that these are context specific instantiations of the primary sense. Sense two is, I think, redundant and unnecessary. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 01:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Cited. —Ruakh_TALK 19:08, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

RFV passed. DAVilla 07:29, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I think the citations didn't match with the definition. Cuba in 1975 was strictly allied with Soviet Union and the Soviet bloc as a whole. It also had friendly or at least non-hostile ralations with many non-allied nations which form the majority of all nations. Also, Switzerland is not allied wit any other country, but one woud hardly call a country that hosts dozens of major global organizations "isolated". Therefore I reformulated the definition to this: "The state of a country not having diplomatic relations with majority of other countries". It may not be perfect, but closer to the real meaning of the word. --Hekaheka 23:41, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I've made some further changes, along the same lines. —Ruakh_TALK 00:03, 26 January 2011 (UTC)