Talk:male-to-female

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male-to-female

Which sense(s) do the synonyms apply to? — Paul G 17:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Fixed! --BigBadBen 18:58, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Trans senses

When definition 2 was reworded in 2021 to not be surgery-specific, it brought to the fore that it and definition 3 aren't actually distinct, are they? I don't think they can ever be used contrastively, i.e. I don't think the word can ever be used in a way that actually specifically means one of those things to the exclusion of the other: I don't think you can say "she's been living as a woman full-time for 2 years now, but she's not male-to-female yet", nor (for 3) "she hasn't had surgery yet, so she's still male-to-female". And "she's male-to-female but hasn't had surgery" doesn't imply a definition 3 that excludes surgery, any more than "he's a baker, but he refuses to make pies" means "baker" has a definition like "one who cooks baked goods, other than pies". So I'd consider merging defs 2 and 3 to something like:

1. (LGBT) Transitioning or having transitioned (in gender identity or presentation, body, etc) from being male to being female.

I wonder if there is a better way of wording that. (Same issue applies to female-to-male.) - -sche (discuss) 02:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)