Talk:order

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Backinstadiums in topic 'Ordered' + object + past participle

what is the relation of law with order —This unsigned comment was added by 59.178.155.107 (talk) at 04:39, 6 January 2009 (UTC).Reply

See law and order for a start. DCDuring Holiday Greetings! 05:46, 9 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Etymology edit

Many sources suggest

from Proto-Indo-European *h₂or-d-, from *h₂er-, hence artus.[1]

, see e.g. here

Zezen (talk) 10:57, 2 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Can the verb be intransitive? edit

Chambers 1908 has an intransitive sense: "to give command". Equinox 19:17, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Possible missing noun sense edit

Chambers 1908 has "due action towards some end, esp. in old phrase 'to take order'". Equinox 19:59, 18 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

in short order edit

What meaning is used in in short order? --Backinstadiums (talk) 09:29, 16 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

banker's order edit

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/banker%27s+order --Backinstadiums (talk) 20:35, 23 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

on order edit

https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/on+order --Backinstadiums (talk) 20:39, 23 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

'Ordered' + object + past participle edit

Fowler's Dictionary of Modern English Usage, page 852 reads

The construction ordered + object + past participle (often expressed in the passive) is first recorded in 1781 in AmE ( These things were ordered delivered to the army—J. Witherspoon). BrE normally requires the insertion of to be before the past participle.

OED reads: Also with ellipsis of 'to be' (chiefly U.S.), but every example is in the form ordered too. https://oed.com/oed2/00164588

What is the reason behind this structure of ? I cannot recall anything similar in grammatical terms. --Backinstadiums (talk) 15:54, 23 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

  1. ^ De Vaan, Michiel (2008) Etymological Dictionary of Latin and the other Italic Languages (Leiden Indo-European Etymological Dictionary Series; 7)‎[1], Leiden, Boston: Brill, →ISBN
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