Talk:sound

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Notusbutthem in topic cuttlefish

What about the adjective?

That is a sound argument. The hull of the vessel is sound.

Joaquin

That’s almost the first definition given: complete, solid, secure. —Stephen 18:18, 5 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

sound edit

How about Long Island Sound?

That meaning of sound is already covered under "Etymology 3". —Stephen 21:46, 28 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

sounding in tort (et al.) edit

There's another definition of sound that's not currently in this entry. I'm not sure what the definition is (which is why I'm not adding it), but it's used in law (at least American law) in the phrases sounds in and sounding in. Google "claim sounds in" (books, Usenet), "claim sounding in" (books, Usenet), "action sounds in" (books, Usenet), and "action sounding in" (books, Usenet) for examples. —msh210 19:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

So I went and found a copy of Black's Law Dictionary, 7/e, which is under copyright, and it says:
sound, vb. 1. To be actionable (in) <her claims for physical injury sound in tort, not in contract>. 2. To be recoverable (in) <his tort action sounds in damages, not in equitable relief>.
Since I don't fully understand these definitions, I can't include them. Maybe someone else knows the word and how it's used.—msh210 23:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Kept. See archived discussion of July 2008. 07:16, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Measuring depth edit

Oxford English Dictionary says "to measure the depth of the sea or a lake by using a line with a weight attached, or an electronic instrument" - is this what's meant at Etymology 4, Verb, Definition 2 - to probe? Duncan MacCall 07:39, 18 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Test edit

It is my impression that user Drago unwillingly inserted 'Test' as one of the possible meanings of the word. Please, could someone more versed in English check if we need to remove that meaning? Thanks, Marianocecowski 09:55, 7 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Sanus edit

Doesnt sound come from latin sanus, as well as sane?

RFV edit

 

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Rfv-sense: A sex toy comparable to a very narrow dildo inserted into a penis through the urethra

By Luciferwildcat. I was inclined to just remove the sense together with its translation table. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:21, 3 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

What is questioned here exactly? Is that the existence of such sexual toys? Urethral sounds do exist as BDSM toys, see w:Urethral sounding (and ext. links). Or do you suggest this sense should be merged with sense #1? That wouldn't sound unreasonable to me, since originally the toy was identical to the medical instrument, except it was used in a sexual context. But, thanks to the creativity of designers, today's toys don't seem to have much in common with the medical ones. — Xavier, 13:54, 3 November 2012 (UTC)Reply
I am asking for citations of use of the word "sound" to mean what the definition above says it means, such ones that meet WT:ATTEST. You seems to suggest the defition is related to the one above: "A probe (e.g. a surgeon's tool)". Unfortunately, the definition above is subprime; it should read "A probe: any of various medical instruments used to explore wounds, organs etc." or the like, to be perfectly clear which sense of "probe" is being picked by the definition. If this definition is accepted and you can cite "sound" as referring to sex toys that are not medical instruments, then you will have attested the sex toy as a distinct sense, I think. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:36, 3 November 2012 (UTC)Reply
The item exists; that can be verified via a lot of non-durable websites. The word, on the other hand, doesn't seem to meet CFI. - -sche (discuss) 05:17, 7 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
RFV-failed for now. - -sche (discuss) 00:06, 6 March 2013 (UTC)Reply


But WHY does it mean this? edit

This entry wasn't very helpful. I wanted to know the etymology of the verb meaning "in good condition". It's there, but no indication of what the word sources mean or why the word "sound" came to mean so. It did help, but mainly because the act of looking at other definitions gave me an idea, and I still don't know for sure, but I think it's because others know you're okay if they can hear you're okay, whether it's from laughter, snoring, or because you are required to 'sound off' regularly that all is well.

But could we please include more definitions in these entries of source words? History too? Because even when I find those definitions, often they give no indications of what connection existed between source and present day usage. Clearly there's a lot more to etymology than just knowing precedent words. It's also about history.

Etymology 3 edit

All the Entry presentation is fine, except for the P.I.E. root which should be *SUNDH, whence Sanskrit SINDHU (river), > INDUS, et cetera. The Entry page Proto-Indo-European root assumes an unattestable stock root of *SWEM, whence Turkish SU (water), from the stock root *SU; and is an excuse for dictionaries erroneously stating that SUND is from Old English SWIMMAN! Andrew H. Gray 13:22, 16 September 2016 (UTC) Andrew (talk)

Painful and thorough edit

As in a sound spanking (vs complete, as in sound knowledge of a subject) --Backinstadiums (talk) 12:04, 30 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

cuttlefish edit

I removed the following: # A cuttlefish. - OED says noNotusbutthem (talk) 21:19, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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