User talk:Bigbossfarin

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Again, welcome! --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:22, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Rhymes

I notice that you created Rhymes:German:-aχn, but the page is mis-named. It is based on narrowly defined phonetics, rather than on the broad phonemes of the language. Rhymes pages should be based on the phonemic pronunciation of words, not on the phonetic pronunciation. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:22, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Sorry EncycloPetey, I do not understand what is wrong with the name of the page. Could you tell me how it would be right? And here is a similar page: Rhymes:German:-ʊχt is that one also wrong? --Bigbossfarin (talk) 14:38, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

This was discussed in the Information Desk WT:ID#Phonology of ch in German just yesterday. I think the idea is that one might consider χ to be the same basic sound as ç, but pronounced differently because of the vowel in front of it. In that case, it would be x for both. I don't know if it's worth rearranging all the rhymes entries to make it that way, though. Chuck Entz (talk) 15:16, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

allein etc

Hi! Why do you think that German allein is an adjective with a full declension? Am I missing something? I know alleinig, which is an adjective, but I do not use allein or alleine like this. --MaEr (talk) 14:29, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Hallo MaEr ich habe gesehen, dass du deutsch sprichst, ich hoffe es macht dir also nichts aus wenn ich in deutsch antworte.
Als ich die Seite allein bearbeitet habe war ich mir nicht sicher ob es die Steigerungsformen gibt. Ich habe deswegen in der deutschen Wiktionary nachgeschaut und festgestellt, dass dort die Steigerungsformen nicht aufgeführt werden. Daraufhin habe ich den Eintrag mit der vollen Deklination ausgestattet. --Bigbossfarin (talk) 16:17, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Die Tabelle ist ja ganz hübsch :) aber würdest du es schaffen, daraus und mit den flektierten Formen Sätze oder Satzteile zu bilden? Wie zum Beispiel: eine alleine Person, ein alleines Tier, in einem alleinem Haus, an einem alleinen Tag? Und dann noch die Pluralformen? Mir fällt das sauschwer... --MaEr (talk) 16:25, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Ich bin mir nicht ganz sicher, ob du das meinst, aber hier habe ich die Vorlage zu der Deklination von einem Substantiv zusammen mit einem Adjektiv:

declension of Bigbossfarin

	singular		plural
f gender	strong declension
nominative	alleine Person		alleine Personen
genitive	alleiner Person		alleiner Personen
dative	alleiner Person		alleinen Personen
accusative	alleine Person		alleine Personen
	weak declension
nominative	die	alleine Person	die	alleinen Personen
genitive	der	alleinen Person	der	alleinen Personen
dative	der	alleinen Person	den	alleinen Personen
accusative	die	alleine Person	die	alleinen Personen
	mixed declension
nominative	eine	alleine Person	keine	alleinen Personen
genitive	einer	alleinen Person	keiner	alleinen Personen
dative	einer	alleinen Person	keinen	alleinen Personen
accusative	eine	alleine Person	keine	alleinen Personen

{{de-decl-adj+noun-f|allein|Person|en}} --Bigbossfarin (talk) 17:03, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Dann schau dir doch mal den Inhalt der Vorlage an: würdest du das für brauchbares Deutsch halten: Genitiv Singular der alleinen Person? Kennst du Leute, die so reden? --MaEr (talk) 17:09, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Also, normalerweise benutzt man im Deutschen allein meistens noch mit einem zweiten Adjektiv, z.B. allein erziehend, allein stehend oder als Adverb. Also bin ich mir nicht sicher ob es die ganzen Fälle bei allein gibt. --Bigbossfarin (talk) 17:33, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Das heißt: die Tabelle kann raus. Die ist ja voller Formen, die nie verwendet werden. --MaEr (talk) 17:43, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Ich denke auch, ich werde die Tabelle wieder entfernen.--Bigbossfarin (talk) 17:56, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Rhymes:German:-aːgn̩

Hi! Da gibt es ja dieses automatische Reime-Hinzufügen... Aber das stolpert anscheinend über Doppelpunkte. Du hattest die Seite Rhymes:German:-aːgn̩ angelegt und mit einigen Reimwörtern ausgestattet, aber der Seitenname enthielt einen Doppelpunkt anstelle des IPA-Längenzeichens. Und das automatische Reime-Hinzufügen hat den Teil hinter dem Doppelpunkt abgeschnitten, sodass dann Hagen plötzlich auf a reimte. Es lohnt sich also, das IPA-Längenzeichen ː statt des Doppelpunktes zu verwenden :-) --MaEr (talk) 16:32, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Vielen Dank für deine Hilfe! Grüße --Bigbossfarin (talk) 17:31, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Wenn

You have forgotten to give a definition / translation. What does it mean? SemperBlotto (talk) 22:05, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh thanks for reporting! --Bigbossfarin (talk) 22:13, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Rhymes

Hi, please be careful when adding words to rhyme pages: for example, "aufhören" is stressed on the first syllable, so its rhyme is the complete word "-aufhören" rather than "-ören". It doesn't belong at Rhymes:German:-øːʀən. Thanks! Longtrend (talk) 21:17, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Okay, danke für den Hinweis! --Bigbossfarin (talk) 21:24, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Erweiterter Infinitiv

What is it? Is there an English term that can be used instead? Also, I think you made a spelling mistake... —CodeCat 23:03, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi CodeCat! The "Erweiterter Infinitiv" (German for: extanded infinitive) is a special feature of the German Grammar, for German explaination see w:de:Kommaregeln#Erweiterter Infinitiv. I thought about it and did not found an equivalent in the English Language. Maybe you could create an english equivalent with "extanded infinitive" but that term has no matches in Google Search yet. --Bigbossfarin (talk) 23:27, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I think CodeCat referred to a missing "i" both in the template name and in the text (you put "Infintiv"). As for the term "erweiterter Infinitiv", I agree that we should instead use an English term, maybe "zu-infinitive". Also, I don't think we should put this template on two-word entries such as zu haben, only on those with separable prefixes. Longtrend (talk) 09:40, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh I did not realize the mistake thanks for reporting. I support the term zu-infinitive. --Bigbossfarin (talk) 14:49, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Soft hyphens

Hi! Please don't use soft hyphens. They break links, when included in links (as they were here), and are unnecessary elsewhere. - -sche (discuss) 05:05, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, that was not on purpose. --Bigbossfarin (talk) 11:38, 16 June 2013 (UTC)