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defaultsort

Hi, just passing by to let you know that {{DEFAULTSORT:}} isn't needed. --Barytonesis (talk) 15:18, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

@Barytonesis: Ah, super! Thanks very much for the heads up on that. I've just been copying the format of pages for other Greek words in that respect. (Sorting stressed and unstressed letters together certainly seemed like something that could be solved systematically rather than by templates, so it's good to know that this has been resolved.)

So where I see it being used to just remove the tonos from a Greek word it isn't needed, then? If so, I'll suggest it as a job for a bot. -Stelio (talk) 15:25, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I'd like a bot to do it as well; it's been a bugbear of mine for quite some time now (especially because it messes up the page display), and I'm tired of removing them by hand :p --Barytonesis (talk) 17:36, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Cross-linking: Wiktionary:Grease_pit/2017/October#Bot request: removing DEFAULTSORT from Greek entries -Stelio (talk) 10:05, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Verb inflection templates

I'm contacting currently active editors of Greek entries for comments about new templates for verb inflection tables. If you're interested please see visit User talk:Saltmarsh#Verb inflection templates. — Saltmarsh. 11:33, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

I've attended to some of the mouse over tips (and may have missed others) but I'm stumped with a translation for the active and passive the non-finite forms. Can you help? — Saltmarsh. 18:48, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

@Saltmarsh — Ah, then I must disappoint you by telling you that I'm unfamiliar with the technical terminology of linguistics in Greek. I learned the language almost solely through conversation (from birth), and have never had a formal education in Modern Greek (but I have in Ancient Greek) so whilst fluent, I'm lacking expertise in certain specialised areas like this one.

Having said that, one method to get a quick translation (which can then be checked against other sources) is to look up the word forms on Βικιλεξικό for comparison. For example: λύσει and λυθεί. -Stelio (talk) 10:57, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, that's OK - my Greek is very limited - my hearing is bad, so in Greece I cannot separate the word's when I spoken to and my memory for vocabulary is hopeless! I will ask Sarri.greek back in my own talk area — Saltmarsh. 11:21, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps @Sarri.greek can help - I have got a few alternatives "απαρέμφατο", "απαρέμφατο αορίστου", or perhaps "Ενεργητική απαρέμφατο" and "Παθητική απαρέμφατο"— Saltmarsh. 11:26, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Stelio! I remember you... You taught me back in November, how to make Hide/Show DIVs! Boys... you think I remember my greek grammar from 50 years ago?? Alas, no! I started reading children's grammar books when i got in here (i got here by accident). And @Saltmarsh: is being kind, listening to me ever since. (Salt, got your message.) Yes the el.wiktionary λύσει and λυθεί very good thought. At λυθεί I would have liked the 'passive' word mentioned. But we've got the 'Dependent' too. The rows particles+dependent may be a nice opportunity to clarity it, but Salt will decide. Here are my thoughts. sarri.greek (talk) 11:23, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

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quarterback

Hello, Stelio. I removed a "reference" to the BBC at quarterback because it does not define the word. It includes "quarterbacking (as a verb)" in a list of "worst examples of business jargon", and says, "Its origins, of course, are from American Football, in which the quarterback plays a leading role." Perhaps that is useful, but I really didn't find it helpful for explaining nor verifying the verb sense. Opinions, naturally, may vary. Happy editing, Cnilep (talk) 04:00, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

That is to say, I removed it and you later restored it. It's there now. I realized after clicking 'save' that I may have been unclear. Sorry for rattling on. Cnilep (talk) 04:03, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Anagrams

Hi. I wouldn't spend too much time adding anagrams by yourself: those are already taken care of by a bot. Per utramque cavernam 11:48, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

@Per utramque cavernam: Yes, NadandoBot, I believe. :-) I'm just being tidy with the entries I create. If I feel like it's taking up too much time, I'll skip it and leave it to the bot. Thank you for looking out for folks! -Stelio (talk) 11:51, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Sometimes the bot spots some lovely anagrams. I was particularly tickled by cormophytic and mycotrophic, both of which could apply to a single plant. -Stelio (talk) 11:55, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Ahah yes, a computer is much more efficient than a human brain for that kind of things! Per utramque cavernam 12:09, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much

@Stelio Thank you so much for your help with rent, lease. Very professional! You gave me lots of terms to use for my translations. Anddddd Happy nameday for both of us: Katerinas and Stelios! χρόνια πολλά for tomorrow!!! sarri.greek (talk) 15:21, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Ήτανε η χαρά μου. Ευχαριστώ πάρα πολύ, @Sarri.greek. :-) Και επίσης σ' εσένα, χρόνια πολλά για χθές! -Stelio (talk) 15:10, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Happy New Year and keraia

Dear Stelio, I wish you a Happy 2020! May i ask... What is the technical problem with this αʹ in favour of this α΄ explained in Template:el-number-note2? I cannot see any problem with interwikis at the first one, with keraia. I have read the Appendix:Unicode normalization but i do not understand whether this is an en.wiktionary-specific problem, or something general. My question is: what is recommended for all wiktionaries? At the moment, el.wiktionary is doing el:αʹ with keraia. We have not done any more, being puzzled and indecisive. Editors in el.wiktionary insist on keraia. I thought of doing redirects for all versions. sarri.greek (talk) 04:13, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

mallus deletion

Hi! When it's a totally uncontroversial deletion, like the plural of a singular that was already deleted in process, you can just edit the page and remove it yourself. No need for RFD. (And if it's something like a rubbish spam page with no value, you can put the {{speedy}} tag on it to request speedy deletion.) Thanks. Equinox ◑ 23:32, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

US accounting terms

Haha, as you saw, I found you while digging through my user subpages. I guess an actuary probably works in the insurance field, but I wonder if you might know these US accounting terms: "throwback" and "throwout". It's something to do with taxation of (municipal or state?) entities, to prevent them from pushing tax out of their region. Equinox ◑ 11:33, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

@Equinox: definitely US-specific, and I'm a UK actuary (and indeed, working in insurance). Nevertheless, I've had a look at the rules and here are some possible concise definitions for you:

• nowhere income: income that is generated in the US by a corporation but that is not taxed by the destination US state, due to the state not having the jurisdiction to tax the corporation.
• throwback: a practice to avoid untaxed nowhere income by instead taxing such income in the source state for a given transaction.
• throwout: a practice to avoid untaxed nowhere income by instead assuming the untaxed transaction is taxed in the source state in a notional proportion to other taxable transactions.
• Note: throwback is typically applied to sales of tangible property, whereas throwout is typically applied to sales of intangible property (actual rules vary from state to state).
• A helpful and detailed explanation: https://taxfoundation.org/state-throwback-rules-throwout-rules/

My wording probably needs tweaking (I feel like I've not made the meaning of "destination state" and "source state" clear, for example). -Stelio (talk) 13:37, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Do you want to be a perfect cutie and create the actual entries? I know a tiny bit of accounting and almost nothing of law (never mind the international differences). You can make a better entry than I can. Equinox ◑ 09:49, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

@Equinox: Perfect cutie status achieved! But at what cost? Reading through taxation accounting books to find quotations was a special kind of purgatory. ;-) Entry added for nowhere income, and new senses added for throwback and throwout. -Stelio (talk) 12:09, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Yeah I don't know why these people do what they do. Funnily enough most of my pitiful income is due to maintaining some old accounting app that XXCLIENTXX has been trying to get rid of for years, but every year they say "right, after April we won't be using XXEQUINOXXX any more, we will be moving to Xero" but they never do. It's just too hard. Law is probably the same as accounting but a bit more difficult. Thank you truly for creating the entries because it was out of my ballpark, and they've been just sitting there in my bookmarks for months. I truly believe I'm the last of the kitchen table software cowboys. In 20 years when it can't possibly matter any more, I'll share it all for us to have fun with. Equinox ◑ 21:10, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

@Equinox: Good luck, dear sir. Making Tax Digital will come into force from April 2024 (for Income Tax, and in 2026 or later for Corporation Tax), so if your software isn't compatible with that then you'll have a hard deadline for the client to switch providers (and Xero is indeed an example of a compliant software package). -Stelio (talk) 22:29, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Well one of the reasons they wanted to switch was that we never implemented VAT properly, and will never bother. It hasn't mattered because they are a small non-profit, but have been sitting on the edge of the boundary beyond which you have to start doing VAT properly. Then coronavirus came and saved me! Haha. Anyway, I already experimented with the Xero API so I can code to that in future if necessary. Did you know that Xero doesn't allow you have to have two different people with the same name, like "John Smith"? INSANE it's INSANE. Equinox ◑ 03:48, 2 September 2022 (UTC)