Last modified on 21 May 2012, at 19:16

Wiktionary talk:Babel

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BabelsEdit

Hi! I just thought it was a good idea to have Babel language templates here just like the English Wikipedia has. Please add the appropriate language templates to your user pages and copy any missing templates and categories from Wikipedia. This way we'll soon complete the process. Post any comments and suggestions below. -- Krun 00:22, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

the Babel "project" is great thing, but in my opinion in current approach (since beginning) there is one drawback: unless one knows the language s/he will not understand what language is in question. In my opinion there should be wording also in the language of wiki, here in English. I have proposed this change few times in Wikipedia but no much feedback, I hope we can make this change here, before it grows bigger in current way.
  I have made examples here to illustrate it. Also i think that there is no point to write long text a la "this user can speak.." it will be enough to state level and language name. This "this user can speak.." -text can be placed on top of the templates. This way it is also easier with different languages, where words(/sentences) are "long", babel box doesn't "explode". --TarmoK 11:26, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
I second the motions.—msh210 22:04, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Interproject policy proposalEdit

I have drafted a proposal for an interproject Babel template standard at meta:Interproject Babel template standardization (proposal). Please review the proposal and improve and/or comment on it. --Ilmari Karonen 17:46, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Native bilinguals with different proficiencyEdit

I'm a native English-French bilingual but my French isn't as good as as that of someone who grew up in France. How should I indicate that? -PierreAbbat 22:19, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

As a note one your user page. Since the Babel templates are self-descriptions, they are inherently inaccurate. --Connel MacKenzie 19:52, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

British EnglishEdit

  • Is there a tag for British English as there is on Wikipedia? That would be very useful on here, as meanings and definitions may vary depending on the variety of English someone speaks. zigzig20s 09:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
  • it's probably deprecated, and doubtful Babel supports it, but in my personal notes I usually indicate dialects with dot TLD codes, e.g. eng.us, eng.uk, eng.au, eng.ca Nicoleta

User cs-1Edit

I'd like to order Template:User cs-1 BartekChom 12:08, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Not adding this page to example categoriesEdit

Not a biggie, but the example Babel box adds this page the following categories: [[Category:User sv-N]], [[Category:User en-3]], [[Category:User fr-2]], [[Category:User es-1]], [[Category:User an-0]]. Is there anyway we can show an avoid this? --Bequw 20:51, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. --Bequwτ 17:23, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

SicilianEdit

  • I'm a native speaker of Sicilian, but doesn't exist the template. Please make it. bye...--Zoologo 19:07, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Sicilian is ISO 639-3 "scn" ---you can add any language in the world, I have "non" (Old Norse) on mine which doesn't have a Babel entry yet. Nicoleta 16:18, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

spoken vs. written skillEdit

  • Is there a way to differentiate (or create a new Babel) between spoken comprehension and written? For example, I can read French fairly well, but can't speak or understand verbal French at all (no offense to the Francophones, I've tried my best :-( ). Nicoleta 16:18, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
    Perhaps even four Babels: ability to speak language, ability to understand language when spoken, ability to write language, ability to read language; perhaps a subcode to indicate each? e.g. eng-5-5-5-5 or something Nicoleta 16:24, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
    You could simply use two Babel templates with header= parameters. —Internoob (DiscCont) 23:04, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Written comprehension
fr-2 Cet utilisateur peut contribuer avec un niveau moyen en français.
Search user languages or scripts
Oral comprehension
fr-0 Cet utilisateur ne comprend pas le français (ou ne le comprend pas sans grande difficulté).
Search user languages or scripts
  • The only drawback is that it categorizes your userpage twice. —Internoob (DiscCont) 23:05, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks; I split up my Babel codes. Nicoleta

missing languages/scriptsEdit

  • Can someone check my creation of the templates for jam, bs-0, enm-1, grc-0, jam-0, non-0 ? We need entries for jam-1 & Runr-0 too. Nicoleta

artificial languages not in ISO-639Edit

I added "art-goauld-1" for the Goa'uld language from Stargate SG-1. Is this the proper notation? I got it from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO,_SIL,_and_BCP_language_codes_for_constructed_languages . I'm shocked they got Klingon an ISO 639-3 code. Stargate is way better than Star Trek, they should definitely add Goa'uld too. Nicoleta

Articles?Edit

The help page mentions 'articles', but that was taken from Wikipedia. Since we don't have articles on Wiktionary, what would be a good substitution so that the different levels are still useful for us? —CodeCat 23:34, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

{{#babel: installation

Since the #babel: template integration into the Mediawiki software, we can delete the different boxes inventory. We might also delete the boxes themselves, but after having checked their presences on Translatewiki. JackPotte (talk) 20:08, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

We discussed this somewhere (BP? GP?), and IIRC we decided to keep them.​—msh210 (talk) 19:16, 21 May 2012 (UTC)