Latest comment: 11 years ago5 comments5 people in discussion
Do we need a list of all Wiktionaries on the Main Page? Do we need it twice?
Currently, the list takes 50% of the space on the Main Page (http://i50.tinypic.com/2ztczme.png). Could we remove interwikis from here?
I think we should keep only 10,000+ wiktionaries and remove the rest. What do you think? Many of these wiktionaries with ~1,000 or less are abandoned. We could keep the biggest and add a link to the full list.
Look for example on German or French's Main Page, they look much better than ours.
Cound't we replace those 'Wiktionaries in other languages' with, e.g., links to languages' categories or add more languages from en.wikt to the Main Page?
I think it will be much more useful to add the most popular languages on ENGLISH WIKTIONARY, not the biggest Wikitonaries.
Maro00:12, 30 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
I definitely agree, the interwiki links are a bit excessive. Making the main page more useful to our users is always good. —CodeCat01:16, 30 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
Hard to say. What I can say, in general, is that I think our main page is, in general, better than fr.wikt, de.wikt, and most of the others I've seen. But that is essentially personal opinion, although I have reasons for it. --Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds14:02, 30 August 2012 (UTC)Reply
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"Wiktionary is run by the Wikimedia Foundation". Hosted by not run by, surely, per the wording on all the Wikipedia projects. Run by would imply the WMF had responsibility for the content, I think. --BozMo (talk) 09:42, 4 September 2012 (UTC)Reply
Well, as far as I know, they do have final responsibility. That doesn't mean that they write or own the content though, but that's kind of implicit in being a wiki. —CodeCat11:06, 4 September 2012 (UTC)Reply
The Foundation supports the Wikimedia projects in various ways, not merely by providing web hosting. Rather than getting into all that, it's probably better to simply say "Wiktionary is a project of the Wikimedia Foundation" or something along those lines. Dominic·t15:05, 4 September 2012 (UTC)Reply
You won't find me arguing that WMF's support for Wiktionary is adequate, but it's still more than just a host. It owns the Wiktionary trademark, is legally responsible for the project and employs our designated agent, it develops software which is deployed on Wiktionary (whether or not that was the primary intended user), and so on. In any case, whether or not it provides any support at all doesn't really have much bearing on the validity of whether Wiktionary is a project of the Wikimedia Foundation, since that is a simple statement of fact, not an action. Dominic·t04:34, 5 September 2012 (UTC)Reply
I agree with Dominic. "Is hosted by" makes it sound like Wiktionary and WMF are two separate entities, which we're not. Wiktionary is part of WMF, and the Wiktionary community is part of the greater WMF community. —RuakhTALK14:10, 5 September 2012 (UTC)Reply
"Wiktionaries in other languages" section needs rephrasing?edit
Latest comment: 11 years ago8 comments4 people in discussion
The main page currently reads:
This is the English Wiktionary: For example, see dictionnaire (a French word defined in English). In order to find a French definition of that word, you would visit the equivalent page in the French Wiktionary.
IMO that first sentence does not actually make sense (the colon is making too big a "leap" in meaning, and should really be replaced by a clause). So, I would suggest that this be changed to:
This is the English Wiktionary, and so defines foreign words in English. For example, see the entry for the French word dictionnaire. In order to find a French definition of that word, you would have to visit the equivalent page in the French Wiktionary.
Then the full sentence would be: "This is the English Wiktionary, and so defines words in both English and foreign languages in English." That's actually a bit hard to parse: "in English" appears twice, and "foreign languages in English" is infelicitous. The French Wiktionary describes itself as a "dictionnaire francophone", perhaps we could say:
This is the English-language Wiktionary, where words from all languages are defined in English. For [an] example, see the entry for the French word dictionnaire. [In order] to find a French definition of that word [instead], visit the equivalent page in the French Wiktionary.
Parts in brackets are optional. (Well, you could decide you like something else better, so the whole thing is optional, but hopefully you know what I mean.) - -sche(discuss)05:36, 25 November 2012 (UTC)Reply
┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ OK, so shall we go with Metaknowledge's suggestion? It Is Me Heret / c15:43, 27 November 2012 (UTC)Reply
Latest comment: 11 years ago4 comments4 people in discussion
Is there a particular reason why capitalisation differs for the "Word of the day" and "Foreign Word of the Day" headers? Should be one or the other—"Foreign word of the day" is preferable in my opinion. IgnorantArmies (talk) 16:12, 22 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Meh. It's not a major issue, but one probably should be changed to match the other. I don't really care which one gets changed, but the other section headings on the page are all in sentence case ("Wiktionary, the free dictionary", "Behind the scenes", "Wiktionaries in other languages"), so I guess it's FWOTD that should be decapitalised. Note also "Discussion rooms" but "Community Portal"... - -sche(discuss)05:27, 23 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Done. --Yair rand (talk) 17:52, 18 March 2013 (UTC)