Wiktionary talk:Votes/pl-2010-05/Restricting the use of LiquidThreads

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"Forbidding all use of LiquidThreads, except that individual editors may choose to enable it on their own talk-pages." as opposed to what? It's not like anyone thinks that the entire discussion system of any of the discussion rooms can be changed without full consensus and probably a vote. Could the purpose of this vote be clarified please? --Yair rand 01:43, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

As opposed to not having any sort of rules about how people can use it. For example, when I de-redlink-ify an entry or template or user's talk-page, can I activate LiquidThreads there? —Ruakh_TALK 02:56, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

No, of course not. People can't just do things like that without consensus. We don't need a policy saying "don't do random insane things that there is no consensus for, and many people oppose", and we certainly don't need policies prohibiting every possible instance of that. --Yair rand 19:13, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

If that's how everyone thinks, that's great, and this vote will pass with flying colors. It's nice to have codification. (In particular, I'm not sure everyone agrees with you that the actions described are insane.)​—msh210℠ 19:18, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Scratch that. We don't need a policy saying "don't do random things that there is no consensus for, and many people oppose", and we certainly don't need policies prohibiting every possible instance of that. --Yair rand 19:21, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

time capsule

This is a note to those who read this in the distant future. Examination of the discussion that led to the creation of this vote will reveal, and I'm making explicit here in case you don't have access to that discussion or can't be bothered to read it, that this vote is meant to be overturned by another vote if and when LiquidThreads are found to be desired. So don't look at this vote (if it passes), say "well, there was consensus not to use LiquidThreads", and decide not to bring the subject up again because you don't want to go against the consensus. Please bring it up if LiquidThreads has more desirability by then: the consensus even now is (AFAICT) that future use of LiquidThreads may be desirable.​—msh210℠ 19:30, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

allowing test pages

Someone has suggested that test pages be allowed. How about

[…] except that individual editors may choose to enable it on their own talk-pages and that a reasonable number of pages using LiquidThreads may be devoted exclusively to hosting tests of LiquidThreads, on which no discussion takes place that is relevant to Wiktionary (including that no discussion of LiquidThreads takes place there).

?​—msh210℠ 19:34, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

How does this sound? :

• Voting on:

  Forbidding use of LiquidThreads, except:

  • on special test/demonstration pages created for this sole purpose.
  • on the talk-pages of users who choose to enable it.
  • as allowed by future discussion in the Beer parlour.

(That last part being so we don't need to have a long string of VOTEs if, as, and when we decide to go ahead with using this extension.)

—Ruakh_TALK 21:35, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

That sounds good. --Yair rand 21:38, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I might be able to support this now. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 22:27, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes.​—msh210℠ 16:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

cancellation

Again, this is for anyone reading this in the future: This vote was canceled not because of any disagreement with what was being proposed but, on the contrary, because, apparently, everyone agrees with what was being proposed, so no vote need be held. Diff.​—msh210℠ 16:33, 7 May 2010 (UTC)