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According to several native TW and HK speakers, the traditional and simplified forms of this character are the same, the character with no left vertical stroke. According to these native speakers, the form with a left vertical stroke is a hand-writing variant or "old-fashioned" calligraphy form. The "alternate forms" section is very, very misleading and should be fixed. 2601:645:4200:3753:6D05:2452:1BD5:F2D7 07:07, 19 September 2016 (UTC) 柯邁宇


When did they change from the old to the new form, and is this universally accepted? —This unsigned comment was added by (talk).

Mandarin readingsEdit

Can it be added in which contexts the two different Mandarin readings are used? 02:44, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Mandarin definitionEdit

Is this the primary term used in Mandarin for "straight" (i.e., heterosexual)? If so, how long has it been used to mean that? 22:50, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

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