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Kept. See archived discussion of March 2008. 02:00, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

RFD discussion: January–March 2018Edit

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A character in a specific opera. Equinox 22:49, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

  • Delete, unless we want tens of thousands of senses for characters in works of fiction having common names, e.g. Rachel, Dean, Jamie, Thomas, and Mallory. bd2412 T 16:59, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Delete the operatic character sense, per bd. If Abigaille is also a {{given name}} in English, add that sense. - -sche (discuss) 18:12, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep as long as "A character in the opera Nabucco (1842) by Giuseppe Verdi" is the only sense associated with this English word. Regulation: WT:NSE. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:50, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Wouldn't that require that sense of Abigaille to meet WT:FICTION? bd2412 T 03:12, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
WT:FICTION seems to deal only with terms (including names) from fictional universes; opera Nabucco does not seem to deal with a fictional universe but rather takes place in Jerusalem and Babylon. The examples given in the policy (Harry Potter books, Tolkien's Middle Earth books, the Star Wars films) match my understanding of what a fictional universe is. --Dan Polansky (talk) 07:26, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
I don't agree with that. Harry Potter includes some real places on Earth, but the characters (and other places) are fictional, as are the activities undertaken. I would say that WT:FICTION applies in every case where the term describes a fictional specific person, place, or thing. bd2412 T 04:15, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
I've added the general "female given name" sense, with citations of three women with the name. - -sche (discuss) 05:24, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Delete. --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 13:20, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Delete per -sche. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 13:54, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Delete. Do the math: take every work of fiction our contributors are familiar with, and multiply it by the number of named characters in those works. Since selecting one work or one character over another would violate NPOV and we don't have notability rules, there would be nothing to keep the more compulsive of our editors from creating entries consisting of long lists of "a character in" senses. Some entries, such as Joe, might end up completely useless. Either that, or we spend all of our time here haggling over which ones to delete. Chuck Entz (talk) 16:15, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Delete. And it's not like it's Romeo from R&J or anything, either. This is just some random soap opera from a couple hundred years ago. We could have millions of these kinds of entries. PseudoSkull (talk) 07:20, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Deleted. - -sche (discuss) 16:14, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

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