Talk:abort

Latest comment: 8 years ago by -sche in topic definition 1. is misleading

Abort edit

Since this is the German word for the abort of a carriage, it should not be a redirect page to this article. Let there be space for an article Abort. (And note that in German the same word is used in a very different sense, too, but with another pronunciation...) Grtx, --Thogo (talk) 22:06, 28 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

 

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abort edit

Redundant sense:

  1. (military) To terminate a mission for any reason other than enemy action. It may occur at any point after the beginning of the mission and prior to its completion.
  2. rfd-redundant|included in mil sense (aviation, military) To discontinue aircraft takeoff or missile launch.
2 is included in 1, I think. DCDuring 20:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

keep - 3 reasons.

  1. The process of aborting a series of involved mission plans a few weeks in is a different action than calling off a single launch before it's complete.
  2. First sense is appropriately tagged military only; second sense in use by aviation industry as well.
  3. 160 book hits for the phrase "abort takeoff"
  • The only way to address this your way is to get even less specific with a merged sense that accounts for all of these type of actions that might be called off or aborted, because I'm sure other industries outside of military and aviation employ the term in this way as well. Such a grand combined sense would encompass the computing sense as well. As it is, I think this is best left giving a sense each to those industries who use the term prominently (at least military, aviation, computing) -- Thisis0 07:13, 15 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
senses are redundant. removed. - [The]DaveRoss 00:11, 30 April 2008 (UTC)Reply


definition 1. is misleading edit

“(intransitive) To miscarry; to bring forth offspring prematurely. [First attested in the mid 16th century.]”

To explain it as “miscarry”, as if it was a synonym, is misleading. In one case it's an accident, in the other it's intentional.

You've entirely missed the point, albeit for very understandable reasons. 'Intransitive' means there's no direct object. So it's saying in about 1550 "she aborted" meant "she miscarried"/"she had a miscarriage". I seriously doubt it's still used that way so it should be labelled 'obsolete'. It's one of those irritating entries that has the first attested senses first, putting etymology ahead of usability. Renard Migrant (talk) 20:33, 11 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
It didn't help that the other fetus-related sense was separated from that one by several unrelated senses. I've moved it. Here's a citation where I can't tell (even with context) whether "miscarry" or "intentionally abort" is meant:
  • 1822, William Campbell, Observations on the Disease usually termed Puerperal Fever, with Cases, in The Edinburgh Medical and Surgical Journal, volume 18:
    particularly as there was no one in attendance when she aborted.
- -sche (discuss) 20:44, 11 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
Discussion continues at Wiktionary:Tea room/2016/February#abort. - -sche (discuss) 01:54, 18 February 2016 (UTC)Reply
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