Talk:faute de mieux

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RFD French part. Perhaps just faute de + mieux, but I may be wrong. --Felonia 09:56, 10 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

keep. I'm French, and it is obvious to me that it's as much a set phrase as the English one. It's not fully necessary to include it to understand it when you read it, but it's necessary to include it to know that this is the precise phrase you must use when you want to express this idea. Lmaltier 17:16, 12 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
That's good to know. Thanks for the input. --Felonia 21:09, 12 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
No idea. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:22, 2 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

KEEP IT - - I ran across this in a historic document and had no idea of its meaning. . . wiki was hands down the best source. and I trust wiki over all sources - - exception Oxford - - Thank you! - Jim Talbert

RFD passed. --Mglovesfun (talk) 10:23, 25 May 2011 (UTC)Reply


RFV discussion: July 2011–March 2012 edit

 

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Rfv-sense - noun definition (in an adverb section). SemperBlotto 16:41, 16 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

I found a couple of noun usages (not this one though). I'm inclined to think of them as errors, but the shared sense, as much as there is one, is something like "the outcome of an action or decision accepted faute de mieux." — Pingkudimmi 05:18, 17 July 2011 (UTC)Reply
RFV-failed. - -sche (discuss) 03:16, 1 March 2012 (UTC)Reply


RFV discussion: January–February 2020 edit

 

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Looks like French. Canonicalization (talk) 07:41, 30 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Quite a few English dictionaries have an entry for this: Merriam-Webster, Oxford, American Heritage, Collins, Random House, Webster’s New World College Dictionary. Several list an English pronunciation that differs from the French /fot də mjø/. The fact that it is used without explanation in a non-French context strongly suggests the phrase has been adopted into English, just like air du temps, nom de guerre and trompe-l’oeil.  --Lambiam 18:47, 30 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
cited. I have added three uses of the phrase as an adverb and one as an adjective to the citations page. None of them use either italics or scare quotes to indicate code-switching. Kiwima (talk) 06:17, 1 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 19:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

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