Talk:novel coronavirus

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A coronavirus that is novel. DTLHS (talk) 19:27, 28 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

Delete. The next one will be called this as well, once the Wuhan outbreak is no longer novel. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 22:55, 28 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Comment that is not the definition given. The definition given is temporally contextually defined. (ie. in 2020, the novel coronavirus is 2019-nCoV, in 2013, it was the MERS-CoV.) -- 67.70.33.184 05:57, 29 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
    • That’s like defining sexiest man alive as “Sean Connery”; “George Clooney”; “Idris Elba” ... It’s not a definition but a series of members of the class. Delete. — SGconlaw (talk) 06:08, 29 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
      • No, it isn't, since "Sexiest Man Alive" is a title, and isn't the only name Sean Connery had at that time, whereas, these were the only official term for the thing at the context dependent periods. It would be like Chelsea Manning being the only name for this person in a certain period, while in another period it would be Bradley Manning. Thus Bradley Manning would only be a valid name for Chelsea in a certain time period, in this it would be the same, sole official name, for this topic. -- 67.70.33.184 06:52, 30 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Delete, per the reasoning of Μετάknowledge and SGconlaw. As the CDC says, "The 2019 Novel Coronavirus, or 2019-nCoV, is a new respiratory virus first identified in Wuhan, Hubei Province, China." However, "A novel coronavirus (CoV) is a new coronavirus that has not been previously identified."[1] One can do the same thing with novel virus or novel species. But to refer to a specific instance requires additional context. -Mike (talk) 08:32, 30 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Delete, SOP. A novel coronavirus is a coronavirus that is novel. There are completely analogous uses of “novel adenovirus”, “novel circovirus”, “novel parvovirus”, and so on and so forth.  --Lambiam 07:09, 31 January 2020 (UTC)Reply
Delete. Canonicalization (talk) 16:32, 8 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
Delete per Lambiam. - -sche (discuss) 18:04, 16 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
Weak keep, as it appears that "novel coronavirus" has become established among common people as a name for COVID-19. (→idiomatic?) —Suzukaze-c 04:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
The problem at present is that the definition of novel is "new, original, especially in an interesting way"... This def is concatenating two senses. Clearly in scientific and medical usage the term novel often simply means "new" (irrespective of interest value), and, when applied to organisms, as in COVID-19, it means "newly evolved" ... I shall edit that entry to try and clear this up. - Sonofcawdrey (talk) 08:32, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Reply
Have done as said (see novel). - Sonofcawdrey (talk) 08:39, 19 March 2020 (UTC)Reply


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