Talk:safe

Latest comment: 13 years ago by Ruakh in topic RFV discussion 1

I expanded definition #2. I think perhaps my addition should be a separate definition, but I can't think of good examples to differentiate them. Anyone else care to chime in? -- Ortonmc 05:01, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I have added two new definitions to the noun, which will require the translation part to be largely redone I'm afraid. Besides that, the way they are now isn't satisfactory; we'll want separate translation tables for different definitions as explained in here. The question is, which definitions? One, two and three (out of danger, harmless and providing shelter) will have many links to the same words in their respective translation lists, but are also obviously different. I'd like to discuss this before I make any changes. -- Sytse 13:02, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Rfv-sense: Slang sense meaning basically "cool". —RuakhTALK 17:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

I've heard this and can verify it from my own experience. Given the commonness of the word "safe" in other senses, and the lack of a single common colocating word (it frequently occurs as the only expressed word of a sentence), citing it from print is going to be trickier! Thryduulf (talk) 19:01, 4 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
I've never heard it myself. Is [1] in this sense?​—msh210 (talk) 19:19, 4 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Yes. [2], and [3] are mentions, which is all I've found so far. Thryduulf (talk) 19:23, 4 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Is this non-US? DCDuring TALK 19:24, 4 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
Seems to be, one of the mentions gives a South African origin, but all the uses I've seen appear to be British (but that could be bias in the selection of works archived by google). [4], [5], [6] all appear to be uses in the right sense. I've not got time to transcribe them currently, but might be able to later. Thryduulf (talk) 19:48, 4 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
This is current in south-east England. The other day I was at the paper shop and overheard two teenagers braying: "Lend me a tenner." (It was lent.) "Saaafe." Equinox 14:36, 5 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
So, do we want to call this "clearly widespread use" and change the {{rfv-sense}} to {{rfquote-sense}}? —RuakhTALK 15:18, 5 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
I've added four citations to the entry. Two of them I'm certain are in the required sense, the other two I'm not completely certain of. Thryduulf (talk) 16:04, 5 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
The "respectable" sense doesn't seem to go with the "cool" sense. It also seems much less of a semantic stretch from the other senses. It would seem to need to be a separate sense. I understand that it is in slang dictionaries, with other shades of approval at various times per Cassel's: "acceptable" and "pleasant". DCDuring TALK 16:55, 5 August 2010 (UTC)Reply
It was widely used in South Africa during the '70/80s meaning, as above, cool eg "Safe, my mate" — This unsigned comment was added by 196.215.69.132 (talk) at 12:44, 18 November 2010 (UTC).Reply
I added another citation. This is cited, isn't it? - -sche 03:04, 28 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

RFV passed. Thanks, citers! —RuakhTALK 22:08, 14 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Rfv-sense Used in British slang meaning cool et cetera. If one watches a British television series such as Skins, one hears it very frequently. --Île flottante 11:02, 21 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

See [[#safe]], above.​—msh210 (talk) 18:17, 21 December 2010 (UTC)Reply


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