Template talk:be-adj1
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In favor of the easier-to-use {{be-adj-table}}{{be-decl-adj}}, to which the above essentially redirect. --WikiTiki89 15:57, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- The new template is kind of misnamed though. Generally, the templates named -table are the ones that contain the table, to which other templates supply the information to fill it in. It does not normally contain any grammar logic. —CodeCat 16:18, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- That's an arbitrary rule though, it makes sense both ways, but happens to go against your personal naming convention. The reason for my naming scheme is that I named them the same way I named the Russian noun template, and when I named the Russian noun template, Template:ru-decl-noun already existed, containing tables, so the first thing I thought of for the automatic declension table was Template:ru-noun-table. Then I named the Russian adjective template the same way, and now I used the same scheme for Ukrainian and Belarusian. --WikiTiki89 16:55, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- It's arbitrary and it did start off as my own personal convention, but I do think it's still sensible to follow it. And it's better to give the template the right name before it becomes widely used. —CodeCat 17:07, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Who else has followed your convention? I honestly don't mind switching them (it is arbitrary, after all) as long as the Russian templates are switched as well, but the Russian ones are widely used. --WikiTiki89 17:50, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- I thought we had a module for Russian already? We probably don't need the template anymore then. And I don't know who else followed the convention, that would be up to those who followed it to say? —CodeCat 17:57, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Searching for "Template:table" gives templates I created, but also quite a few created by others from what I can see. —CodeCat 17:58, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, that module is accessed through Template:ru-noun-table. The old template Template:ru-decl-noun, which is the backup table for irregular nouns, is still very widely used. And can you link to an example or two of a "-table" template that you did not create? --WikiTiki89 18:07, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- No wonder I'm confused. We have two or three entirely separate methods for making Russian inflection tables. I thought that when the module was created, the existing templates were changed to use it. But that wasn't done for some reason and an entirely new parallel template was created. We should probably try to sort that out by deleting what we no longer need, and merging/renaming what we want to keep.
- A list of the templates named -table that I did not name, but do work in the way I described:
{{osx-decl-noun-table}},{{is-conj-table}},{{fr-conj-table}},{{enm-conj-table}},{{uk-conj-table}},{{ca-conj-table}},{{be-conj-table}},{{lv-conj-table}},{{hit-conj-table}},{{el-decl-adj-table}},{{lv-decl-noun-table}},{{cel-gau-decl-noun-table}},{{ka-conj-table-transitive}},{{el-conj-table}}{{el-conj-table-passive}},{{nds-conj-table}},{{non-conj-table}},{{nn-verb table}},{{nn-verb-table}},{{nb-verb table}},{{nn-adj table}},{{nn-adj-table}},{{nb-adj table}},{{nb-adj-table}},{{nn-noun table}},{{nn-noun-table}},{{nb-noun-table}},{{gml-conj-table}},{{nds-conj-table}},{{egy-decl-noun-table}},{{ang-decl-adj-table}},{{kn-decl-table}},{{oc-conj-table}},{{lv-decl-part-table}},{{ast-conj-table}},{{sem-decl-noun-table}}. There may be more. —CodeCat 18:48, 26 August 2014 (UTC)- I was going to propose deleting the old non-module templates for Russian right after this, but I thought I might as well get the easy stuff over with first. --WikiTiki89 18:54, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- I agree. —CodeCat 18:56, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Done swapping the templates (very convoluted work). Now I'll do the Ukrainian ones. --WikiTiki89 19:33, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Done swapping the Ukrainian ones as well. @CodeCat do you plan on voting on these now? --WikiTiki89 20:22, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- I supported the proposal from the start. I guess I forgot to say so... —CodeCat 20:45, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Done swapping the Ukrainian ones as well. @CodeCat do you plan on voting on these now? --WikiTiki89 20:22, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Done swapping the templates (very convoluted work). Now I'll do the Ukrainian ones. --WikiTiki89 19:33, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- I agree. —CodeCat 18:56, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- I was going to propose deleting the old non-module templates for Russian right after this, but I thought I might as well get the easy stuff over with first. --WikiTiki89 18:54, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, that module is accessed through Template:ru-noun-table. The old template Template:ru-decl-noun, which is the backup table for irregular nouns, is still very widely used. And can you link to an example or two of a "-table" template that you did not create? --WikiTiki89 18:07, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Who else has followed your convention? I honestly don't mind switching them (it is arbitrary, after all) as long as the Russian templates are switched as well, but the Russian ones are widely used. --WikiTiki89 17:50, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- It's arbitrary and it did start off as my own personal convention, but I do think it's still sensible to follow it. And it's better to give the template the right name before it becomes widely used. —CodeCat 17:07, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- That's an arbitrary rule though, it makes sense both ways, but happens to go against your personal naming convention. The reason for my naming scheme is that I named them the same way I named the Russian noun template, and when I named the Russian noun template, Template:ru-decl-noun already existed, containing tables, so the first thing I thought of for the automatic declension table was Template:ru-noun-table. Then I named the Russian adjective template the same way, and now I used the same scheme for Ukrainian and Belarusian. --WikiTiki89 16:55, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- Orphaned and deleted. --WikiTiki89 11:28, 18 August 2015 (UTC)