Latvian color terms

The purpose of having templates is to allow someone to easily modify them all in one go. That is what templates in general were designed to do, to reduce duplication and allow you to write something once and use it on many pages. You know, like a template! So writing it all out manually kind of defeats that purpose and makes it harder to maintain. The solution isn't to use less templates, it's to use templates that work better.

The template {{list helper}} is the main cause of slowdown, but it is being phased out. There is a new template User:CodeCat/list helper which reduces those problems significantly, and most list templates have already been changed to use it. So the "uses too many resources" part doesn't actually apply anymore, and makes the RFD seem more like a witch hunt against anything that looks like a list template, than something that actually makes sense.

Yes, I understand that, from my intro-to-Wiki/Wiki-101 course. My point is that there is such a thing as a bad template, and list templates are egregious examples. So: if the template is indeed improved (how is this being done?), and if it looks better (a running list with less-than-single spacing and with superscripts at the end, looking like nothing else on Wiktionary?...), I shall have no objections to its use, nay, I shall start using it myself. (Is there a discussion on the format of the new template somewhere? I'd like to see it.)

I am not aware of anyone complaining about the format of list templates. As far as I know, the only complaint was about how they were implemented.

Let me be the first one then. Basic complain: they don't look like anything else here at Wiktionary; as in all dictionaries, it would be, I think, better to follow standard formatting. I would much rather they looked like a table -- like the ones we have for translations, synonyms, derived terms, etc. when they are too many.

You're free to change {{list:days of the week/lv}} and others to look different, so if you prefer a table you can do that. But I would strongly recommend against writing it all out manually in each entry, that just increases maintenance problems with very little benefit.

But it seems to me all list templates should be made to look more like Wiktionary. Why should there be something here that looks so different? Of course, I could change things manually for Latvian templates, but I'd rather not, exactly for the reasons you mention. Isn't it in the interest of Wiktionary consistency to make things look more similar? (I've occasoinnally seen outside of Wiktionary negative comments on the various formats for inflection tables here.)

It is better to be consistent, but also harder because it means we have to get everyone to agree on something. I'm not sure if my talk page is the right place to discuss it, though.

Indeed. Where should it be discussed then? The Beer Parlor? Should I start a thread there? Where are matters pertaining to the list templates being curreently discussed / done?

Beer Parlour would be best, yes.

OK -- I'll open a thread there now. Thanks for the input.

Also, should this rather poor format be chosen to stay, I would rather simply not use the template at all (and leave the non-template lists I've added to those pages as they are) than to change only the Latvian subtemplates -- much as I don't like the format, I like even less the idea of having inconsistent subtemplates. It would be preferable, I think, to simply delete the Latvian subtemplates in this case.