Hello, Jusjih. Some help for your reference:


Hello, and welcome to Wiktionary. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wiktionarian! By the way, you can sign your name on Talk (discussion) and vote pages using four tildes, like this: ~~~~, which automatically produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the beer parlour or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! --Dvortygirl 08:01, 3 August 2005 (UTC)


Um, Jusjih... A lot of the things you've been classifying as suffixes during the last few minutes aren't actually suffixes: "-based", "-backed", "-on-demand", etc. I hope you aren't planning on doing the same for the whole alphabet. Keffy 07:47, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

There are a few people who use the term "suffix" loosely to mean anything that goes after anything else. Others use it narrowly to refer to a specific set of grammatical markers. If we were starting out fresh, you could make a good argument for using "suffix" the loose way. But we're not starting out fresh. Some Wiktionarian has already put in a lot of work carefully distinguishing between narrow-definition suffixes and broad-definition suffixes ("combining forms"). It would be a shame to throw out all that person's work.

But thanks for all the other contributions you've been making! Keffy 08:01, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

You're right. After I've looked around a bit, it seems the use of terms is a mess. The part-of-speech headings, and the categories pages, and the definitions of combining form etc., all seem to be using terms in slightly different ways. It's probably the sort of problem that should be discussed in the Beer Parlour. In the meantime, I have no objection if you want to keep adding suffix tags ("be bold" all you want!). But personally I think there are way better things you could be using your boldness on than this. Thanks again. Keffy 17:49, 17 February 2006 (UTC)


Please take a look at template:wikipedia#Cosmetics. When adding a Wikipedia link, the very first line is where {{wikipedia}} should go, most of the time. Keep up the great edits! --Connel MacKenzie T C 09:10, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your message, but I have another question. If someone uses a link with texts only, shall I replace these texts with the template? I have ocasionally done this to hopefully standardize the formats, but I would like to be better sure.--Jusjih 09:58, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Yes, if you feel it is appropriate. Either format is fine. --Connel MacKenzie T C 10:18, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

"For" voteEdit

Hi Jusjih! I just wanted to thank you for the supporting vote on the admin page. :) --Dijan 04:29, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Invitation to contributeEdit


You might or might not already be aware that there is now a new system in place for marking translations that need to be checked (those that are suspected of being incorrect or those where it is not clear which sense(s) of a word the translations apply to). (See here for the Beer parlour discussion on this topic.)

Translations to be checked are now categorised by language. For example, Category:Translations_to_be_checked_(French) contains a list of all words where French translations need to be checked. This is designed to make the checking of these translations easier to maintain and work with.

I'm contacting everyone who has expressed an interest in working on translations or has indicated in Wiktionary:Babel that they have a good knowledge of a particular foreign language or languages.

Would you be interested in helping out with the translations to be checked for Chinese? If so, please read the page on how to check translations.

If you want to reply to this message, please do so on my talk page. Thanks for your help you can provide.

Paul G 08:57, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your reply and your offer to help. If you look at this page you'll see that the Chinese translations to be checked have be categorised in various ways: CJKV Characters; CJK Characters; Chinese (simplified); Chinese Characters; Chinese characters; Chinese, Simplified; Chinese, Traditional; and Chinese. It would be very helpful if you could work on as many of these you are able to.
Thanks again. — Paul G 11:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Oops, my mistake with the link to the Chinese translations to be checked. — Paul G 14:54, 17 March 2006 (UTC)


Hi, thanks for your work on the Chinese translations of uncle. Unfortunately that page had no translation tables, so it is not clear which translation applies to which definition. I have now added the translation tables. Please could you put the Chinese translations into the appropriate tables. Thanks. — Paul G 09:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi again. Thanks for pointing out "aunt" and "cousin" to me too. I am cleaning these up.
Incidentally, I notice you use "zh-t" and "zh-s". Do these mean "Taiwanese" and something else? If so, could you write these out in full, please (as (Taiwanese) and (whatever the other one stands for))? Only genders should be abbreviated in translations. Thank you. — Paul G 09:59, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
I see. Traditional and simplified Chinese should have separate entries, like this:
  • Chinese, Simplified: ...
  • Chinese, Traditional: ...
Paul G 14:09, 31 March 2006 (UTC)


Congratulations, you have now been made an administrator. I hope you enjoy your new privileges. Welcome aboard! — Paul G 15:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


Per your comment on the Wiktionary:Administrators page, Kappa has accepted the nom. bd2412 T 04:32, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


So you're the one that's been putting in non-standard language headings! Please stop doing that. Mandarin is not a valid heading. --Connel MacKenzie T C 17:10, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

It's not? I've been doing that as well. It did seem weird, but then a lot of stuff seems weird. bd2412 T 04:11, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
I did not invent this non-standard heading. What is called Chinese language includes many so-called "dialects", such as Cantonese and Taiwanese. (There are still disputes as to whether they should be considered dialects or separate languages.)--Jusjih 05:52, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Sorry about the signature typo (very odd.) Thanks for your response; I'll investigate the link you directed me to. --Connel MacKenzie T C 17:10, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi! We've changed this since Connel's comment above (although it isn't entirely definite yet) ... we are using Mandarin as a language header; as you know this is much better. Our present standard set of language names from IS 639-3 for the Chinese language group is Cantonese, Hakka, Gan, Jinyu, Mandarin, Min Bei, Min Dong, Min Nan, Min Zhong, Wu, Xiang. Local variations are noted in the pronunciation section or in usage notes. See WT:AC, but understand that that is still a work in progress. Robert Ullmann 13:58, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, I speak Mandarin natively, but I do not understand any dialects (or local languages depending on points of view), so for Chinese, I am interested in Mandarin only.--Jusjih 13:51, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for your support regarding my nomination as admin. Recently I have tried to be a little more useful with my edit summaries but wanted to know what others such as yourself may find useful in them?--Williamsayers79 01:35, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Reply re adminshipEdit

This is a somewhat belated reply to your message of last June.

I'm obviously not active on Wiktionary these days. I don't think it really makes sense for me to continue as an admin in the circumstances, so feel free to delist me.Ortonmc 02:02, 24 April 2007 (UTC)


Jusjih, Thanks for asking. All four of those images were self-taken and posted long before anybody on Wiktionary had any idea about license tagging. I really ought to go put them on Commons somewhere and take down the Wiktionary copies, but if you'd like to re-tag them PD or whatever flavor of cc-by we have a tag for, meantime, please be my guest. (It may be awhile before I get off my duff and go do that sort of cleanup. --Dvortygirl 05:13, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Beer parlour#Category:Pronunciations wildly different across the pondEdit

As you edited Category:Pronunciations wildly different accross the pond, you will probably be interested in the Beer Parlour discussion I have just started about it. See Wiktionary:Beer parlour#Category:Pronunciations wildly different across the pond. Thryduulf 13:35, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your message, but your message has a typo. It is Category:Pronunciations wildly different across the pond. My edit was to categorize it so it would no longer be an uncategorized category.--Jusjih 00:22, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


Hi, WT:DW says you maintain MediaWiki:Sitenotice. Is that still true? Would you mind adding a link to Wiktionary:News for editors to it for a while? (I'd add it myself, but don't want to step on anyone's toes.)—msh210 17:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Your request is done. Since you are also an admin, there is no stepping on anyone's toes provided you assume good faith. You may simply add to or drop from any tasks at WT:DW at any time. It is simple.--Jusjih 00:06, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Thank you.—msh210 18:53, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


Hello, Jusjih, I saw you are an active user with Chinese heritage and I would like to draw your attention to the Wiktionary:Beer_parlour#Recurring_problem_with_Chinese_vs._Mandarin discussion, where several editors decide on the appropriateness of the Chinese instead of Mandarin terminology.Regards. The uſer hight Bogorm converſation 06:33, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your message. In ISO 639-3, Chinese is coded zho and includes Mandarin (cmn), Min Nan (nan), Yue (yue), etc. While I consider Mandarin much more specific, I do not support eliminating "Chinese". I have to think how to talk in a complex discussion.--Jusjih 03:08, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


I do not want to come across as contumelious but please consider casting your vote for the tile logo as—besides using English—the book logo has a clear directionality of horizontal left-to-right, starkly contrasting with Arabic and Chinese, two of the six official UN languages. As such, the tile logo is the only translingual choice left and it was also elected in m:Wiktionary/logo/archive-vote-4. Warmest Regards, :)--thecurran Speak your mind my past 02:32, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks and I have voted.--Jusjih 21:54, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Votes/2010-04/Voting policyEdit

I urge you to vote. (I don't know which way you'll vote, but I want more voices, especially English Wiktionarians' voices, heard in this vote.) If you've voted already, or stated that you won't, and I missed it, I apologize.​—msh210 17:00, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Illegal user pagesEdit

Just tag them with {{delete}} when it's as flagrant as that. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:11, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Usurp pleaseEdit

I have been trying for some time to get a bureaucrat here to delete an old account which I no longer have access to having forgotten the password and not having access to the email address any more. Someone deleted the user page for me but that doesn't help, I need them to delete the account so that I can re-establish it and complete my "login unification". Can you do it please. It's User:Chris55. My "home" is s:User:Chris55. Thanks—This unsigned comment was added by (talk) at 26 August 2012.

No account may be deleted.--Jusjih (talk) 19:32, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


This is a taxonomic name that has an old sense and a new, related sense, which I cannot be sure of because I cannot find attestable usage in English, though it can be found, for example, at   Saurornithes on Wikispecies.Wikispecies . It seems to have been revived to provide a taxonomic home for some fossils of lizard-birds found over the last few decades in China.

Do you have any suggestions for how to proceed to find whether and, especially, with what definition the term is used, in Latin script, in Chinese works? Any help would be appreciated. DCDuring TALK 17:27, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Having never seen this word before, I cannot yet find its Chinese definition. What does it have to do with Archaeopteryx?--Jusjih (talk) 06:20, 6 November 2013 (UTC)


打扰您一下,请问IP Block exemption这个权限应该在哪里申请?我在英文维基申请之后,对方说不能在维基百科上申请其他项目的。可是英文维基词典好像没有这个申请页面.....谢谢 --Hahahaha哈 (talk) 13:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

请向管理员申请。请解释您为何需要IP Block exemption,我才考虑就地授予此权限。谢谢。--Jusjih (talk) 07:28, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
您好,因为我在中国大陆,由于各种原因,部分网站无法访问。维基词典的情况更特殊,时断时续,有时打开速度快的吓人,有时候根本连不上,大部分时间速度极慢。比如我刚刚测试了一下,打开您的讨论页,单击“编辑”到页面完全加载完毕需要45秒左右,使用代理服务器可以控制在4秒左右,大大节省了时间,但是只能浏览,不能编辑。所以希望申请 IP Block exemption 来节省时间。我主要新增中文和维吾尔语的条目,这是我的贡献列表, Special:Contributions/Hahahaha哈 麻烦您审核一下。谢谢。--Hahahaha哈 (talk) 14:46, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
完成了。--Jusjih (talk) 06:32, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
非常感谢。--Hahahaha哈 (talk) 07:04, 4 March 2014 (UTC)



I have partially reverted your edit, sorry. First, it's better to categorise lemmas - Japanese shinjitai (中国人) and hangeul entries 중국인. Second, the categorisation of Chinese entries is now done via {{zh-cat}}. Also, {{Sinoxenic-word}} needs a parameter for shinjitai, pls. see my change in 中國人 and 中国人. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 06:10, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

I did not even see the documentation on how to use Template:Sinoxenic-word. For [1] why remove Category:ko:Nationalities?--Jusjih (talk) 06:17, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
Categories belong to the lemmas, in this case, 중국인, which I have just recreated. Same with Japanese 中国人 (shinjitai). --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 06:40, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
Please cite the relevant policy or guideline, as [[2] did not readily explain why remove Category:ko:Nationalities.--Jusjih (talk) 06:55, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
Hi, sorry for the delay. No, there's no policy, just the convention. Hanja entries, like Japanese kyūjitai and kana (if kanji is more common then spelling), let alone romanisation entries (pinyin and rōmaji), contain the minimum info. Entries in Category:ko:List of topics are mainly hangeul. BTW, there's no need to add a jamo to [[Category:ko:Nationalities|ㅈ중국인]]. You'll find that Category:Korean Han characters are all sorted correctly by hangeul. Do you object to this convention? We could discuss in BP and invite others. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 23:44, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately I have to somewhat object your thought because:
  1. 日本人 does have Category:ko:Nationalities right above 일본인. It has very great value to learn both Korean hangul and hanja side by side.
  2. If 中國人 should not have Category:ko:Nationalities as you have thought, then neither should 日本人, but I sincerely consider your thought counterproductive.
  3. Projecting your preference would mean removing Category:ko:Crime from 恐喝, and even more that others have done, then even more turmoils would follow.
Therefore, please reconsider your thought to remove Category:ko:Nationalities from 中國人. I neither support nor oppose removing Category:ja:Nationalities from the same page as Japanese shinjitai tend to be readily comparable with kyujitai, but I still prefer discussing this in BP and invite others.--Jusjih (talk) 05:06, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. Yes, in my opinion 日本人 shouldn't belong to that category either. I changed it this morning in line with the other edit. I have just created Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2014/September#Korean_lemmas_and_categories. Please join. If the community decides to include hanja into categories, so be it.--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 06:06, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

The GambiaEdit

You need to be far, far more careful before you close RFMs. Moving a category does not move the contents or update the infrastructure, and pretending that it is done when it is not actually causes other people more problems. As an admin, you have a responsibility to keep up with changes in the infrastructure (not that moving categories ever worked like that), but if you are unwilling to do so, at the very least refrain from breaking things and making other people clean up after you. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 02:14, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Is there any faster way than manually changing many things? How about a bot?--Jusjih (talk) 02:21, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
One could use AWB, but doing it manually is probably more efficient in this case. If it's too slow for you, just don't do it instead of making a mess. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 03:40, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Then everyone's business becomes no one's business when no one wants to change many things quickly. Thanks for your message. I will find a good time to coordinate any quick change.--Jusjih (talk) 01:56, 27 May 2017 (UTC)