Kristian642

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Malayalam

Hi, it seems you have been creating erroneous Malayalam entries such as this and this. There is a "preview" button so that you can see if what you have written is correct. Please be more careful in the future.

By the way, do you speak Malayalam natively?

--Regards, 98.179.127.59 02:16, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

I do speak Malayalam natively. I didn't notice the errors I made, and I will be more careful in the future. Thanks for letting me knowǃ Kristian642 (talk) 16:32, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Correctionː My native language/mother tongue is indeed Malayalam, but I am much more fluent in English as I lived in a foreign country for my whole life. Kristian642 (talk) 16:34, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Also, the reason why I added English loanwords is to let Malayalam learners know that most of the English words are only used in colloquial and informal language by native Malayalam speakers. Kristian642 (talk) 16:43, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

By the way, I am a learner myself. I couldn't find a reliable English to Malayalam dictionary. So I decided to contribute to wiktionary by adding words that I am familiar with. Kristian642 (talk) 19:50, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

No problem. :) 98.179.127.59 19:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Oh, and by the way, if a word is only used in colloquial speech, you can label it as such. Use {{tlb|[language code]|colloquial}} at the top of the header if all senses are colloquial, or use {{lb|colloquial}} next to a specific sense of a word if only that sense is used colloquially. 98.179.127.59 20:04, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

I think you put those right next to the meaning/translation of the word regardless if all the senses are just one thing. I have never seen a word in the wiktionary where it is at the top of the header. Kristian642 (talk) 02:21, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

If a label applies to all senses, you can do so. Ex. Tamil துடை (tuṭai). Notice how the label "transitive" is at the top of the verb header, because it applies to all the senses (there is one in this case, but you can also list the label at the top if a label applies to all of the senses). 98.179.127.59 20:59, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Also, why did you do this? Kristian642 (talk) 02:28, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I did it because Malayalam verbs are usually listed in their lemma form, which I believe usually ends in -ക or -ഉക. 98.179.127.59 20:58, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

When listing those types of words as a verb, do I have to include ചെയ്യുക at the end? For example, വിവർത്തനം ചെയ്യുക (in a separate page) instead of just വിവർത്തനം? Kristian642 (talk) 23:16, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I think so, since other Dravidian languages like Telugu and Tamil do the same. But, do consider if some words borrowed from English are even Malayalam or if they are rather part of a mixed language combining Malayalam and English. 98.179.127.59 00:10, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Also, the header for part of speech goes below the pronunciation. If you have any questions about entry layout, see WT:ELE. 98.179.127.59 21:01, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Follow Wiktionary guidelines

Hi, do not create entries such as കമ്മിറ്റ് ചെയ്യുക, കമ്മിട്ട് ചെയ്യുക, എക്സൈറ്റിങ്, ഇഡിയറ്റ്, etc. These are not Malayalam lemmas. Those are just transliteration of English words in Malayalam letters, not proper loan words. For now, create entries for Malayalam words in lemma forms only.

See also the page Wiktionary:About Malayalam for a quick overview. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me on my talk page. Thank you. 18:11, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for letting me know. Kristian642 (talk) 18:41, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Also, what should I do with the existing entries? Kristian642 (talk) 18:49, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Do I move their pages? Kristian642 (talk) 20:23, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

I have already moved a couple of them, but I stopped. Kristian642 (talk) 20:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

No need to move them. Just keep it like that. It will be deleted later according to Wiktionary:Page deletion guidelines. Moving is not done for this purpose. Vis M (talk) 20:39, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Don't worry, you can continue by creating words for Malayalam words like പൂവ്, അമ്മ, ആട്, വരുക, etc.

In English Wiktionary, Malayalam word entries will be written in Malayalam letters, but the definitions will be in English. See Wiktionary:English definitions for the guideline.

In Malayalam Wiktionary ml.wiktionary.org, the definitions will be in Malayalam language.

First thing you should know before creating new entries is what words (lemmas) can be included. See Wiktionary:Criteria for inclusion and Wiktionary:Lemmas for it. You can create entries for all the Malayalam words that can be found in a typical Malayalam dictionary with own entries. See ml:s:വർഗ്ഗം:നിഘണ്ടുക്കൾ for a few old dictionaries. Vis M (talk) 20:54, 1 May 2022 (UTC)~

IPA

Hi, for IPA, you can use https://phon.smc.org.in/ to generate IPA symbols, then check if the IPA pronunciation is close using some IPA to audio site like http://ipa-reader.xyz/ . Also, once {{ml-IPA}} becomes ready, we can use it rather than having to manually type IPA pronunciations in. Thanks. Vis M (talk) 19:01, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

There are some issues with https://phon.smc.org.in/ such as when a letter is represented by the wrong IPA symbol (ജ being represented by ɟ instead of d͡ʒ), and it does not generate voiced IPA consonant symbols for the voiceless consonants in Malayalam that are in between vowels. Kristian642 (talk) 14:14, 23 June 2022 (UTC)