User talk:Maikxlx/Template:la-decl-2M

Proposal: Locative and Number Variants - 2nd declension examples

Introduction

Many paradigms require a variant template that displays the locative. Currently, that means the same paradigm will have at least two templates:

1. Declined without Locative
2. Declined with Locative

Furthermore, many paradigms require up to three variant templates based on which numbers are displayed:

1. Singular & Plural
2. Singular Only
3. Plural Only

Theoretically, this means there are up to six variant templates:

1. Singular & Plural without Locative - e.g. most common nouns
2. Singular Only without Locative - e.g. names of individuals
3. Plural Only without Locative - e.g. common nouns that take only the plural
4. Singular & Plural with Locative - e.g. common nouns with locative connotations
5. Singular Only with Locative - e.g. names of cities
6. Plural Only with Locative - e.g. names of cities that take the plural

It seems to make more sense to have a single template for each paradigm. This is possible if we indicate variants systematically using optional named parameters.

Two Approaches

I have designed two separate proposals in order to show what what is possible. I prefer the first proposal, but I am amenable to feedback based on what is better for editors. In the first proposal, we use a single named parameter called "options" to handle all six number/loc variations. In the second proposal, we use two named parameters to handle the locative and number variations separately.

Proposal #1: One named parameter

This proposal sacrifices perspicuity for brevity.

For examples, see below.

1. Singular & Plural without Locative - (this is the default)
2. Singular Only without Locative - |options=S (S means singular-only)
3. Plural Only without Locative - |options=P (P means plural-only)
4. Singular & Plural with Locative - |options=L (L means "display the locative")
5. Singular Only with Locative - |options=SL
6. Plural Only with Locative - |options=PL

Proposal #2: Two named parameters

This proposal sacrifices brevity for perspicuity.

For examples, see my other example page here.

1. Singular & Plural without Locative - (this is the default)
2. Singular Only without Locative - |number=singular
3. Plural Only without Locative - |number=plural
4. Singular & Plural with Locative - |loc-include=yes
5. Singular Only with Locative - |loc-include=yes|number=singular
6. Plural Only with Locative - |loc-include=yes|number=plural

Examples without Locative

In my proposal, all templates configured to display the Singular & Plural without Locative case by default.

Example 1 : Singular & Plural

Example noun: lord, master.

{{User:Maikxlx/Template:la-decl-2M|domin}}

Results in:

Template:case \ Template:number	Template:singular
nominative	dominus	dominī
genitive	dominī	dominōrum
dative	dominō	dominīs
accusative	dominum	dominōs
ablative	dominō	dominīs
vocative	domine	dominī

Example 2 : Singular Only

Example noun: (cognomen).

{{User:Maikxlx/Template:la-decl-2M|Brut|Brūt|options=S}}

Results in:

Template:case \ Template:number	Template:singular
nominative	Brūtus
genitive	Brūtī
dative	Brūtō
accusative	Brūtum
ablative	Brūtō
vocative	Brūte

Example 3 : Plural Only

Example noun: children.

{{User:Maikxlx/Template:la-decl-2M|liber|līber|options=P}}

Results in:

Template:case \ Template:number
nominative	līberī
genitive	līberōrum
dative	līberīs
accusative	līberōs
ablative	līberīs
vocative	līberī

Examples with Locative

Example 4 : Singular & Plural

Example noun: earth, ground

{{User:Maikxlx/Template:la-decl-2M|hum|options=L}}

Results in:

Template:case \ Template:number	Template:singular
nominative	humus	humī
genitive	humī	humōrum
dative	humō	humīs
accusative	humum	humōs
ablative	humō	humīs
vocative	hume	humī
locative	humī	humīs

Example 5 : Singular Only

Example noun: city of Corinth

{{User:Maikxlx/Template:la-decl-2M|Corinth|options=SL}}

Results in:

Template:case \ Template:number	Template:singular
nominative	Corinthus
genitive	Corinthī
dative	Corinthō
accusative	Corinthum
ablative	Corinthō
vocative	Corinthe
locative	Corinthī

Example 6 : Plural Only

Example noun: city of Pompeii

{{User:Maikxlx/Template:la-decl-2M|Pompei|options=PL}}

Results in:

Template:case \ Template:number
nominative	Pompeiī
genitive	Pompeiōrum
dative	Pompeiīs
accusative	Pompeiōs
ablative	Pompeiīs
vocative	Pompeiī
locative	Pompeiīs

Discussion

Please discuss this issue on the Latin declension template page.