ThePhilologist
Collins pronunciations
editHi. What is your native language, and what are your proficiencies in other languages? Please do not change our Russian pronunciations to conform to Collins without first checking with our native Russian speakers. —Stephen (Talk) 06:52, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- So I take it you mean you have better credentials than a dictionary? Also may I ask for your credentials as well? Being a native Russian doesn't mean you know IPA at all. ThePhilologist (talk) 07:01, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- My credentials are on my userpage. Actually, being a native Russian DOES mean you know IPA. IPA is part of the Russian curriculum. —Stephen (Talk) 07:32, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- @ThePhilologist. My two cents. Collins IPA you have been adding is not incorrect but it's less precise - /sɐˈjʉz/ is more precise than /sɐˈjuz/ and /ˈskorəsʲtʲ/ is more precise than /ˈskorəstʲ/. There are minor points, which Collins seem to miss. (I also posted in User talk:Chuck Entz#скорость and союз). I'm not discouraging from adding IPA to Russian entries where it's missing (someone may fix later if it's incorrect) but please don't change existing IPA without consulting. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 23:58, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 08:08, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
You can’t go around removing definitions. Add {{RFV-sense}}
to the disputed sense and nominate it here. — Ungoliant (Falai) 10:29, 4 October 2013 (UTC)