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April 2018Edit

Is it time to delete the feedback posted in January?Edit

I suppose I'm permitted to delete it myself but I don't know whether cleaned out on a three-month basis means three full months of feedback should be here. 71.183.128.18 06:29, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

February's feedback was deleted on April 6. Was this deletion not premature? --184.207.79.88 04:30, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

drzakEdit

I just want to say thank you!!!

Category:English words not following the I before E except after C ruleEdit

I have a problem regarding this document in question. Your article is titled 'English words not following the I before E except after E rule' One of he examples that you used 'ANCIENT', DOES follow the I before E except after C rule. This is s mistake that I noticed and this note is just for constructive criticism purposes only. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Thanks but this conforms to the rule: i comes before e but it's after c. —Justin (koavf)TCM 05:26, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
@Koavf: Multiple negation is usually confusing, and I'm afraid you've tripped over it here. You're right that ANCIENT belongs in the category, but your explanation is backwards. ANCIENT does not conform to the rule, and that's exactly why it belongs in the category. It conforms to the definition of the category, which is equivalent to not conforming to the rule. --Thnidu (talk) 17:29, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
@Thnidu: I'm confused by your initial comment. You said that ancient, because it "DOES follow the I before E except after C rule", is a "mistake". By "mistake", I assume you mean it shouldn't be in "Category:English words not following the I before E except after C rule". However, the word ancient does not follow the rule because it contains the letter combination IE after the C, instead of CEI. That's what @Koavf pointed out. Thus, the word should be in the category. You confirmed this in your second comment which is inconsistent with your initial comment, so I'm not sure what you were trying to say in your initial comment. — SGconlaw (talk) 17:49, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
@SGconlaw: You quote me as saying it "DOES follow the I before E except after C rule" and is therefore a "mistake". Those aren't my words: they're from the first comment in this section, which is unsigned. Let me parse out the pieces of the rule and the category.
  • The rule is "I before E except after C", which also implies "I after E when the pair follow C".
  • Therefore, the category "English words not following the ... rule" is for English words containing
    • CIE, such as ANCIENT, CONCIERGE, EFFICIENT, FANCIER, POLICIES, and SCIENCE
    • EI after any letter except C, such as CAFFEINE, DEIFY, HEIGHT, LEISURE, NEITHER, PROTEIN, REIMBURSE, REINDEER [and SLEIGH :-)], SOVEREIGN, and WEIRD
    • EI at the very beginning of the word (so, not after any letter); EIGHT, EITHER, and just about nothing else but names and unmodified loanwords (EINSTEIN [name], EINKORN from German, EISTEDDFOD from Welsh; I got these from the American Heritage dictionary).
I hope that clears it up. --Thnidu (talk) 18:45, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Ah, sorry, I thought the initial comment was by you. — SGconlaw (talk) 01:14, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
The rule that I learned as a child is "I before E except after C or when sounded as /eɪ/ as in neighbor and weigh". If that's rule that applies, then reindeer, sleigh, and eight should not be in the category, because they're not exceptions to the rule. —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 20:02, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
People regularly add/remove stuff here in error. I hope some day we will automate it based on IPA tags, like we now do with Q without U words. Equinox 02:20, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

neo-McCarthyismEdit

The definition is wrong. --2600:8804:6:4E00:9D85:2F0E:D369:DE2D 16:50, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

I’ve attempted to fix it. — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 06:02, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

meristicEdit

etymology is circularly defined with meristics

Better now? —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 13:11, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Appendix:Glossary of U.S. Navy slang/Unit nicknamesEdit

I'm enjoying your site. I have three ship nicknames you may want to add:

  • USS KEARSARGE (CV-33) was the "Queer Barge"
  • USS PAUL REVERE (APA-248) was the "Peter Rabbit" because the letters "PR" were painted on the bow ramp of her LCVPs
  • USS WILKES-BARRE (CL-103) was the "Willy-B"

Respectfully,
Robert Haley
Chief Petty Officer, U.S. Navy (Ret.)

Thank you, they have been added. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 09:13, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Appendix:List of German cognates with EnglishEdit

please add a colored banner to the top of this page asking visitors to help and expand the page, and to check out the discussion page also. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:List_of_German_cognates_with_English

Help:ContentsEdit

what can i do about github they have have hacked privet pics video email contacts and bamk account i got a legal notice against them and they did not return my propety they sent me a bunch of read me files and a text that ask how i feel about haven a dick in my ass im at a lose for words abouyt the way i have been treated and what i can do about getting mt things back and them off my pc i cant use half of it because they have it locked down to the point of what browser or file i can see or use 5405800582 please help or point me in the right direct

I'm sorry, but this is an online dictionary staffed by volunteers who are knowledgeable mostly about words and languages. I can't even begin to guess where to direct you. Chuck Entz (talk) 20:36, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

yeeEdit

Yee- A term used by emos that was popularized back around 2016ish. It's derived from the south, or the "souf" and was made popular do to some dinosaur clip in the iconic "Important videos" playlist on YouTube.

Used for- It uses range from excitement to sorrow. Ex one: Emo one:"Dude... my gf just broke up with me... yee." Emo two:"Dude... I'm so sorry, Rawr XD."

"Yee" can also be used as slang for southerners,rednecks and cowboys. Ex two: Redneck one:"Yall boys got some dip?" Redneck two:"Yeeyee!"

Emos in 2016ish? Didn’t they go extinct in 2009 AD? — Ungoliant (falai) 19:59, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

humanityEdit

humanity: characteristics that make us humans

ValdesEdit

What's the possessive noun?

Valdes’s. —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 13:43, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Wiktionary: State Definition BEFORE EtymologyEdit

I feel strongly that a term's definition MUST come before its Etymology. 75% of the time I don't care about Etymology. 100% of the time I am hunting for the definition. Working with individuals for whom English is not a 1st language, it is useful provide links to Wiktionary's terms. However, it is often necessary to identify some other source (dictionary) URL because Wiktionary's Etymology text sometimes obscures a term's definition.

Thanks for the feedback. If you're only looking for the definition of a word, then I'd suggest navigating using the table of contents at the top of longer pages. For instance on cat (which has an admittedly very long etymology), you can just click "1.2.1 Noun" near the top of the page, and you'll automatically jump right to the definition. – Gormflaith (talk) 13:53, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
I would agree that probably far fewer dictionary users want an ety than simply a def. (Chambers puts the ety right at the end, even after derived terms!) Equinox 13:55, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
Or you can use ninjadictionary, which takes our content and shows only the definition. --Cien pies 6 (talk) 10:00, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Many times an etymology is or should be just a single line. The Etymology sections are cluttered because of a tendency to collect the content in the English lemmas, creating lots of redundancy.
It is the "true meaning" after all, so it should (!) be more informative than a definition, even. Wikipedia has Etymologies directly under the table of contents, too, most of the time, or even in the head of the lede.
By the way, who or what is a Chambers? R. S. P. Beekes has the ETYM last, too. That's the chronological order, so to speak. Rhyminreason (talk) 00:55, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
@Rhyminreason: See Chambers Dictionary. —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 08:58, 5 May 2018 (UTC)


@Rhyminreason: Damn that fallacy! I hope you're joking. The ancient Greeks believed that a word had a "true meaning", which could be found by tracing its origin. The word "etymology" itself exemplifies that belief: it comes from
Latin, from Greek etumon, true sense of a word, from neuter of etumos, true. [American Heritage Dictionary, 4th edition]
If that belief were correct, we wouldn't have "blue", "black", "blank", and "bleach" all coming from the same Indo-European root bhel-1 (ibid., Appendix I). --Thnidu (talk) 17:44, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Wiktionary:FeedbackEdit

Hi, тесниться is presented as perfective, but is imperfective and стесни́ться or потесни́ться presented as imperfective are in fact perfective verbs. @Atitarev

chthonicEdit

I think it's comparable. Also how do you expect us to pronounce /kθ/ at the beginning of a word when we can't even do /ks/?

The comparative more chthonic is attested; I've added it. Some people pronounce the word /ˈkθɒnɪk/, while others say /ˈθɑnɪk/. Cnilep (talk) 02:10, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
@Cnilep: American Heritage Dictionary, 4th edition has only the /ˈθɑnɪk/ pronunciation. So does Merriam-Webster online, in their notation \ˈthä-nik\. The Compact Oxford English Dictionary, on the other hand, has only /'kθonɪk/. Maybe it's a US vs. UK variation. (Cnilep, I've been wondering: do you pronounce your username with /kn-/?... Oh, never mind, I just checked your user page.) --Thnidu (talk) 18:06, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
(For what it's worth, in my head it's something like /si:ˈnajləp/. Cnilep (talk) 02:15, 7 May 2018 (UTC))

Faustian bargainEdit

I like the way things are right now. I don't have any idea if and how things might be improved further.

MayEdit

Word of the day: prime cutEdit

I see that today's word of the day is prime cut, meaning a top-quality serving of meat. I also see that May is promoted by the cattle industry as National Beef Month. Well, I'm afraid I have a 'beef' about this. I understood Wiki to be impartial, independent, and never to take advertising. I feel that this promotion doesn't fit with the Wiki ethos and shouldn't influence which word is chosen as word of the day. Furthermore, most thoughtful people now are realising that reducing meat consumption is an essential part of the route to environmental sustainability, so that's another reason why Wiki should not be promoting it. Thanks for reading this. —This unsigned comment was added by AnnAlexTech (talkcontribs) at 17:14, 1 May 2018.

*Sigh*, if only someone were actually paying me/Wiktionary to do this ... — SGconlaw (talk) 09:43, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
You deserve a prime cut for supper. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 18:33, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Nolite te bastardes carborundum mate. I love WOTD and FWOTD, thanks for your labor. — Mnemosientje (t · c) 16:20, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
:-D Thanks! — SGconlaw (talk) 18:47, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

κρόκοςEdit

Crocus (κροκος) a we know and use it is described in other pages of Wk as originating from Crete so it is poor to say that it is a loan from semitic languages. There are articles contesting the etymology as being semitic and instead argue the word crocus or earlier are pro-hellenic and in fact of minoan origin. I hope this helps. —This unsigned comment was added by 129.11.210.77 (talk) at 09:51, 2 May 2018 (UTC).

If you could provide the titles of some of these articles, I can incorporate this objection into the etymology (or you can be bold and expand the etymology yourself). The current one is based on the sources you see listed at the bottom of the entry. — Mnemosientje (t · c) 16:14, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Appendix:GlossaryEdit

I'd love to have an option to filter Wiktionary entries by language, and to have that persist across multiple searches.

For instance, if I'm translating some text from Spanish with the help of this website, I won't be interested in neither French nor Italian nor Latin nor Portuguese nor English nor German nor some occasional Finnish which will frequently precede the entries I'm actually after.

That aside, love the website, especially the amount of effort that was put into Latin entries. To all the contributors, thank you!

Good idea! --Thnidu (talk) 18:07, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Try the Tabbed Languages gadget in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets, it remembers the language section you viewed previously and automatically takes to there when you go to a page. —AryamanA (मुझसे बात करेंयोगदान) 22:25, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

impubesEdit

Great site !!!

ankoraŭEdit

The second quotation under "still" says it was written in the year 19, which should be 1934, and lacks a translation. Additionally, the first two lines should be switched, to be correct to the poem as linked on the poet's Esperanto Wikipedia article. I'm leaving this as feedback because I lack the knowledge to provide a good translation, since it has a strange structure with no accusative case, and I'm not sure how to leave a note requesting one.

Good catch. I don't know Esperanto but I've removed it for now, since the editor who added it has the tendency to make stupid edits. If it is actually an interesting quote, it would be nice if someone else would restore it properly. —Suzukaze-c 00:42, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Special:NotificationsEdit

Hello Editors of wiki,I found that some of the files contain typos in the articles and need to be correctified.And also,there are missing citings for the documents which are marked in red,I think they should be completed as well.Nonetheless,wiktionary is did a lot of favor with my language study.Thank you editors from all over the world. —This unsigned comment was added by FrankdiNanking (talkcontribs) at 17:13, 7 May 2018.

yeetEdit

I'm sorry to tell you but, the word Yeet plural is Yeet it is like the the word deer it simply doesn't change when pluralized. If you could fix that it would be much appreciated. —This unsigned comment was added by 168.10.27.164 (talk) at 01:29, 10 May 2018‎.

Wiktionary:Main PageEdit

Hello Wiktionary, could you develop a personal dictionary instead of saving words on the watchlist? —This unsigned comment was added by YugoslavusClicero (talkcontribs) at 15:55, 10 May 2018‎.

Yes. You can save words (with definitions and whatever else you like) to your talk page. —Stephen (Talk) 02:22, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

うわEdit

Thank you.

Category:English irregular plurals ending in "-i"Edit

Octopi is not the plural form of octopus. Please fix your page and check the other words.

Did you read the usage note? You should. Octopi may not be your choice for the plural, but a lot of people (close to 30%) do use it. —Stephen (Talk) 15:58, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

laurelEdit

If someone does not change the audio file in the English pronunciation section to one that sounds like "yanny", there is no justice in this world. --184.207.145.213 19:15, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, we heard that story. Silly. —Stephen (Talk) 23:43, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
:-D — SGconlaw (talk) 02:25, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

autexousiousEdit

Does a pronunciation exist for this?

Unacceptable grammatical mistake in your publicationEdit

You own a website visited by millions of people who have questions to be answered day after day. The may check it because of a doubt without importance but maybe the word they are checking can make them pass or fail an exam. That is why it is your responsability to take care each day of any words you publish, because it is unacceptable to have words as simple as an irregular verb incorrectly conjugated published on your website. I hope you change it in the following couple of hours. If you don't everyone will know the truth: "You are not from Planet Earth". —This comment was unsigned.

Our readership must have spiked recently. - TheDaveRoss 14:52, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
I like how they don't even tell us which entry has a mistake in it. —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 15:11, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes, if there's a mistake, we'll fix it. In fact, you can fix it. This is a wiki; it's naturally gonna have mistakes on it sometimes, though we definitely strive for the best. As said above, you don't even mention the entry that had a mistake, which isn't helpful to us. PseudoSkull (talk) 17:57, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
responsability perhaps... Equinox 19:51, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
We are, and always have been, a descriptive dictionary- we describe language as it's actually used, rather than how authorities dictate it should be used. This comes directly from Wikimedia's "Neutral Point of View" philosophy, and is unlikely to ever change. We try to label the kind of terms you're concerned about as "proscribed" or "nonstandard" or "misspelling" so our readers won't make the mistake of using them where they would be considered incorrect. If there are any such terms without the appropriate label let us know and we'll add it. Chuck Entz (talk) 00:41, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
And, for the record, we are from Planet Earth. Except User:Spacebirdy, but she hasn't been around for a while. --Genecioso (talk) 17:54, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
I just visited Sagittarius A*, so my trip back might take a while. --birdy (:> )=| 09:13, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Word of the day: overthrowEdit

Your number 2defition is more "logical" and without false premises than example 1. This example is false and has be an incorrect conclusion. You cannot implicate. As in your first example with words like government and such. The second definition is much more logically correct. Thank you. Jill

Regardless of your view, the fact remains that sense 1 is the how the word is mostly used these days, and has been used in this sense for centuries. — SGconlaw (talk) 04:08, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Category:English words prefixed with apo-Edit

not sure why all other words don't begin in a CAPITAL, and why appears under the letter A instead of C...77.126.68.245 01:58, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

If you're referring to Apocalypse, it begins with a capital letter because it is a proper noun. The other entries are not, and thus should not begin with capital letters. Also, entries in prefix categories like "Category:English words prefixed with apo-" are categorized according to the part of the entry after the prefix, otherwise all the entries would end up under the letter that the prefix starts with. Thus, Apocalypse (apo- + calypse) is categorized according to calypse. — SGconlaw (talk) 06:37, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Category:English swear wordsEdit

I believe more info should be added to the swear word page. 1. The power and effect of the word varies by region. E.G. Utah or the deep south: damn it, and hell would not be accepted in many settings. In the North East or other areas of the US it would be meaningless. 2. "Oh my God" should be added to the general list. "Oh my Gosh" is accepted in Utah and the deep south, but not "Oh my God." The only time this would be accepted is when the situation is such that the person who says it is saying it in all sincerity, actually crying out to God for serious help, not in any trite way. 3. List the substitutions that are used to provide exclamation without being offensive. Heck/(hell), dang it/(Damn it), gosh/(God) flip, f'n/(fuck), crap/(shit) etc. 4. Mention something in regards to FCC regulations for viewer discretion.

Talk:empresesEdit

I think you need to add Ligas to slang terms !! It means Like I Give a Shit Preceding unsigned comment by 74.115.237.100

June 2018Edit

τρίγωνονEdit

Brilliant website. Very useful for letting me know what I already knew pre internet age.

flobEdit

This word was in common usage throughout the 1950's when I was at primary and secondary school although there are no cited instances if its written use during this period.

kašeEdit

I cold not find or understand the creation of verb forms, I would need some examples.

Please look at https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=ka%C5%A1e&action=edit&section=6

Thanks

I do not understand your question. I looked at kaše, but that has nothing to do with verbs, or?
If you need examples of verbs, look here: Category:Serbo-Croatian verbs
For examples of noun forms, see here: afikse, matrice. —Stephen (Talk) 04:58, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

假借Edit

Cannot waste my time contributing if anyone can bulldoze anything without explanation. —This unsigned comment was added by 87.119.182.5 (talk).

If you made an edit that was reverted, you should ask the admin who reverted it what the reason was. Not just anyone can bulldoze anything. We have only a handful of admins who can revert like that. We get a large number of bad edits (some deliberate vandalism, some careless, some deformed, and some ignorant, and our small staff cannot discuss with every person who makes a change. I have no idea which word you edited or what your edit was, because your username is anonymous and it has no history here. —Stephen (Talk) 07:17, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Category:German words suffixed with -losEdit

Some of the definitions are incorrect. I would greatly appreciate it if some of the definitions were corrected.

coquinaEdit

Presumably the stone is uncountable. —This unsigned comment was added by 87.112.250.53 (talk) at 15:45, 15 June 2018‎.

Yes, I think so. Thanks, I've updated the entry. — SGconlaw (talk) 08:06, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

viveEdit

This phrase under "usage" not making sense: "Usually rendered as “long live”, though used more generally than people,"

I suspect it wasn't written by a native English speaker. I've clarified the first part of the sentence, and removed the second part, which I think is irrelevant (about English usage of "yay" and "go" more than French usage). Andrew Sheedy (talk) 18:45, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Yay! Thanks.

витамин B2Edit

The declension table is garbled, wikitext appears.

Hmm. It doesn't like the <sub> commands. —Stephen (Talk) 08:10, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

сто тысячEdit

The declension table is garbled, wikitext appears.

I think I have fixed this one. —Stephen (Talk) 08:15, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

uroflowmetryEdit

This should link with the italian

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uroflussometria

I have linked it to w:Urine flow rate on Wikipedia, and that article links to it:w:uroflussometria. Is that what you have in mind? You could add a Translation section to uroflowmetry and we would put the Italian translation there. —Stephen (Talk) 11:38, 21 June 2018 (UTC)