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May 2024

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antipassif

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might be a real word in French by wiktionary standards Justin the Just (talk) 18:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

κρατήρ

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I'd like all pronunciations to be shown by default. That applies to Greek and Persian entries which display many possible and historic pronunciations. --Esperfulmo (talk) 20:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

This is a product of how {{grc-IPA}} works (and, by extension, Module:grc-pronunciation. If you think the default behavior should change, maybe raise this at Wiktionary:Grease_pit/2024/May. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:57, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hello @Esperfulmo. You probably know it already: at your left hand menu, under 'Visibility' you can click the little letters: 'Show pronunciations'. It is not default for every reader, but only for you. ‑‑Sarri.greek  I 03:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

μίσθιος

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  • AP6.283
  • Sammelb.4299.14
  • PCair.Zen.378.14
  • Supp.Epigr.2.569.28, 4.447.45
  • PAmh.2.92.19
  • J.BJ5.2.1.

I found the above sources for quotations for "μίσθιος" from the LSJ dictionary but can't figure out what the abbreviations mean. I would appreciate if someone could help me find these sources.

Cheers Jamal1911 (talk) 23:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

These are a number of reference works, e.g. "Supp.Epigr." is Supplementum Epigraphicum Graecum. Someone who is really familiar with ancient Greek (I am not) would probably be familiar with them, but someone who is new to it (I am) would probably be confused. —Justin (koavf)TCM 23:45, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hello, @Jamal1911 Yes, abbreviations can be a nightmare. Here are some helpful lists:
DGE abbreviation lists, are the best: http://dge.cchs.csic.es/lst/2lst-int.htm
https://logeion.uchicago.edu/about has abbreviations LSJ, Bailly2020, Montanari-Brill (with grc titles)
  • Supp.Epigr., as Justin wrote: https://logeion.uchicago.edu/abbreviations/lsj Supplementum Epigraphicum Graecum, adjuvantibus P. Roussel, A. Salač, M. N. Tod, E. Ziebarth, ed. J. J. E. Hondius, Leyden 1923-.
  • PAmh.2.92.19 ibidem: Amherst Papyri, ed. B. P. Grenfell & A. S. Hunt, 2 vols., London 1900-1; cited by No. of vol., papyrus, and line.
  • J.BJ5.2.1. ibidem: Josephus Historicus [J.] i A.D. Ed. S. A. Naber, Leipzig (T.) 1888-96. // BJ = Bellum Judaicum
and some abbr. notes at @el.wikt. ‑‑Sarri.greek  I 03:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
PS. M @Jamal1911, I think you must take off all the links from the text of quotes. I have never seen all words linked. You may do that at a page of your own; I do that too. ‑‑Sarri.greek  I 04:01, 7 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

For the slang term "cool" as an adjective or adverb I prefer the definition "High positive appeal" as in "That's cool." Thanks! Leonidas B

stupidest

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stupider and stupidest are not words of the english language. People who use these forms are, of course, the most stupid and your dictionary should list these words as incorrect forms. Thanks! Leonidas B

Like most dictionaries, Wiktionary describes how people use languages, and does not try to prescribe what is supposedly right or wrong. In some cases, labels are added to warn people that certain usages may be regarded as, for example, derogatory to some people or regarded by some people as proscribed (generally thought to be incorrect). However, I don't think stupider and stupidest fall into the latter category—it is common to see them being used. If you do searches at Google Books and the Internet Archive you will find many uses of them. To discuss the matter further, post a message at "Wiktionary:Tea room". — Sgconlaw (talk) 08:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Category:Afrikaans_terms_borrowed_from_Malay

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"Piesang" is another word used in Afrikaans, "banana" in English, which also originates from Malay's "pisang". 94.205.104.151 16:59, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

antimeme

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Please don't change anything at all the website is perfect as is please for the love of God...

2600:4040:5C0B:5D00:D1A1:78B9:FE29:3763 03:51, 21 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Audio pronunciations

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On wiktionary with language "en", I can press the play-arrow next to words, and hear the recording. On wiktionary with language "nl", this doesn't work, and instead an .ogg file is downloaded.

gate

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Under Etymology 1, in the list of derived terms, the entry for Cilician Gates is borked. —71.105.243.101 07:45, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. Fixed. Chuck Entz (talk) 17:54, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

semimetal

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I changed the definition of this word. I am an Inorganic chemist of the solid state and familiar with many compounds that are semimetals. A good example is titanium disulfide. (And there is plenty of literature that says so). The term metalloid is typically reserved for elements that have semimetallic properties. So metalloids are a subgroup of the semimetals, or in linguistic terms: metalloid is a hyponym of semimetal Jcwf (talk) 18:35, 29 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

June 2024

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capitaine#Noun

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The definition specifies that this spelling, in English, is used by non-native speakers. But the last of the four quotations appears to have been written by someone who was proficient in English. Given that the writer was discussing the Montreal Canadiens, I believe their use of this spelling was a deliberate use of the French word, and therefore, the quote should not be used as an example of the (mistaken) use of capitaine in English. —⁠71.105.243.101 03:21, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

仔女 THANK YOU !!!

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THANK YOU !!!

Artemis#Proper_noun

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Definition 2 states The usual male variation is Artemios. Maybe that's true in Greek, but I think in English, it's Artemus or Artimus. Further, the quotations under definition 3 are from 1934, 2012, and 2009 (in that order). Shouldn't they be in chronological order? —⁠71.105.243.101 15:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Good eye. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:14, 10 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Adding a new word to the dictionary

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What is the criteria for a new term to be accepted as a word in the dictionary

See WT:CFI. Please don't try to add any words you made up, try Urban Dictionary for that. Justin the Just (talk)

I just want to say thanks to whoever create this form!!!

cunt

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How are two pseudonymous reddit posts from less than 2 years ago sufficient to establish their own definition? — This unsigned comment was added by 2603:7000:8c00:43e2:44d5:7d40:aa9:4018 (talk).

First off, it's not just based on that (as of this writing). Secondly, being pseudonymous is irrelevant: if a word is being used a certain way, you don't have to identify yourself to use that word. Odd line of reasoning. —Justin (koavf)TCM 03:20, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
You misread the reasoning. It strikes me as very "urban dictionary" to add a definition to a foundational English word based on two anonymous reddit posts from less than two years ago. That said, the new link is somewhat more palatable: McNally 2016 (the p. 59 reference) never uses cunt as an adjective—only cunty—but at least it establishes a credible arrow pointing in that direction. 2603:7000:8C00:43E2:1A2:BA6A:A30C:3429 16:45, 21 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

July 2024

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leden

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leden - serbocroatian there is a bad link down there. can anybody fi it who knows more? — This unsigned comment was added by Rasmusklump (talkcontribs).

Great point. I'm posting to the Grease Pit now. —Justin (koavf)TCM 10:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

ماذا

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also a relative pronoun? like in the citation? Justin the Just (talk) 05:20, 6 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Appendix:Protologisms/Long_words/Titin

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Wtf is that word with thousands of letters and how do you change it into Russian? — This unsigned comment was added by 178.122.242.146 (talk).

Bruh. Look at the page: it's a protein name and the Russian cognate is already listed. fr fr tho. —Justin (koavf)TCM 07:38, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Category:English_three-letter_words

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Hi, cool page, could you also include "sob" in the "S" section? Thanks! 2A02:8108:8380:30E4:A420:C57E:FF21:A32C 11:24, 9 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

oko serbocroatian

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Does oko have a Dual? I read in a songtext: Radost … na tvoje oka dva =happyness … in your eyes

Word of the day: pet shop

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...and their first single, West End Girls, was released 40 years ago on 9 April 1984. On Wikipedia, only album titles are italicized; the titles of songs are enclosed in quotes. —⁠71.105.243.101 06:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Fixed. J3133 (talk) 07:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
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Ü Wikis are good things! :D Ü thx btw

durchfall

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The form "Durchfall!" as an order seems strange to me. It should be "Falle durch". What does exist is der Durchfall, this is a diarröh. Rasmusklump (talk) 23:58, 12 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Word of the day: enby

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Pick a real word with a real meaning instead of this fantasy larp shit. You know, like the word 'larp'. 202.150.115.35 04:13, 13 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

See “X isn’t a real word! Why do you have an entry for it?” in the FAQ at the top of this page. — Sgconlaw (talk) 11:38, 13 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

ريال

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Spain had no Geopolitical influence in Arabia, how come does wiktionary state the Arabic Riyal comes from the Spanish real when it was Portugal that controled key centres of trade in the region and thus influenced an handful of local terminologies, like the word for oranges and the real, the coin of the Portuguese empire.

2001:818:E3D4:9A00:10C7:D663:B190:E398 18:57, 13 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

velicanstven

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BY error I created the page velicanstven. I ask for delete it. Thanks. Rasmusklump (talk) 10:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Rasmusklump:   Done. Next time, you can tag such entries with {{delete|reason}}. — Sgconlaw (talk) 11:47, 17 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

водоросли

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Error Error Error anything that has to do with Kelp has error

What error? —Justin (koavf)TCM 00:38, 19 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

マッチ

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マッチする • (matchi suru) suru (stem マッチし (matchi shi), past マッチした (matchi shita)) 86.41.246.98 10:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

This is a problem with a template that occurs in many entries. Justin the Just (talk) 12:36, 20 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have been wondering about the etymology of a type of fruit tree variety known as a pitcher. I assumed this came from the pitcher = jug background, since pitcher varieties can be grown from cuttings (unlike most cultivars which must be grafted). I imagine someone putting fruit tree cuttings in a jug and spotting the roots emerging. However, it may be that the etymology is more to do with the 'throw' meaning of the word, i.e. pushing a cutting into the ground. Would be interested to know which is right... I noticed on this page that there wasn't a reference to pitcher, the jug or pitcher cultivars, so thought this might be helpful to mention. For what it's worth, I recently found out that the following cultivars are pitcher varieties. I believe they're a mixture of pears and apples: • Douthwaite • Guikian • Hainsworth • Hearty • Irish Pitcher • James Beauty • Langan's Pearmain • McCann • O'Gorman • Sac of Sugar • Sweeteen • Whit Moss Burg • McGrigors Pear This last piece of info is courtesy of the Irish Seed Savers Association which has a specialist orchard of pitcher varieties. "Jo Homan"