Reconstruction talk:Proto-Slavic/jilъ

RFD discussion: February 2020–January 2022

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Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/jilъ

Oppose deletion. I created the *jilъ entry so that it would serve as a landing-point for the Proto-Slavic Wikipedia article which links to it in the noun tables. Additionally, if it were deleted, then the accentual information from the Verweij 1994, listing the noun as an Accent Paradigm-a noun, would be obscured. Finally, Vasmer lists the Russian descendant ил as being derived from an originally u-stem noun; so, it would be doing a disservice to readers to hide what very well may be the more accurate entry. BirdValiant (talk) 02:35, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

• Delete: Creating entries for alternative reconstructions is pointless. --{{victar|talk}} 02:45, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
• Keep like any other alternative form that can be demonstrated to have existed synchronically. —Rua (mew) 20:34, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose deletion. @Rua and @Victar, Why delete it? :v —— Gnosandes (talk) 22:00, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
• Does Proto-Slavic actually distinguish word-initial ji and jь, or are these simply notational variants of the same thing? If the two are truly phonemically distinct (i.e. if *jilъ and *jьlъ could have had different meanings and form a minimal pair), then I would not be opposed to keeping the entry separate. But if these are notational variants of the same sequence of phonemes, then I'd say this should be a hard redirect to Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/jьlъ. Since our Recsontruction pages are language-specific, we need have none of the qualms about hard redirects that we have in mainspace. —Mahāgaja · talk 19:51, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

• RFD-kept —Svārtava ^{[t•c•u•r]} 05:27, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

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