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You ask: "are there really three senses? e.g. would someone say σύζυγος to mean `husband` to the exclusion of `wife`, or vice versa?".
- Well in English (in England at least) if a man says "my spouse" he means "my wife", although it would not be said informally. I have altered the order of the defns. Does that answer your point? :) — Saltmarshαπάντηση 06:45, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- Not really, no. If someone says "Everyone who has a σύζυγος, please follow me", can he possibly mean only those with a husband? only those with a wife? If not, can you think of any other sentence where σύζυγος means only "husband", or only "wife"? (A sentence like "I gave it to my σύζυγος" doesn't count, as it's unclear: even if the referred-to person is my wife, I may have meant "spouse".) If there's no such sentence, then I think σύζυγος probably means only "spouse", in which case the "husband"/"wife" senses (now sense) should be gotten rid of.—msh210℠ 21:45, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- And re "in English (in England at least) if a man says 'my spouse' he means 'my wife'", yes, but spouse means "a husband or a wife"; there should be no separate "wife" sense.—msh210℠ 21:48, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
- Yes - I've changed the entry (sorry to be awkward!). — Saltmarshαπάντηση 04:23, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- Although it is less straight forward. 1. Probably because the other words for "souse" are "man" and "woman" A Greek person is very likely to use "σύφυγος" in situations where an English speaker would never use "spouse". And 2. the word is of common gender - so "η σύφυγος" = wife and "ο σύφυγος" = husband - differentiated by the gender of the article. — Saltmarshαπάντηση 04:36, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe a usage note then? Perhaps "Unlike English spouse, this is the most common word used for a husband or wife. When referring to a husband, it takes the masculine article ο (and adjectives/verbs/whatever?), and when referring to a wife, it takes the feminine article η (and adjectives/verbs/whatever?)" or something.—msh210℠ 18:41, 21 June 2012 (UTC)