Talk:county
This article is currently quite broken. — Hippietrail 10:02, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Am trying to cite Old French comté, but I can't find it. Google's insensitivity to accents doesn't help either. Mglovesfun (talk) 15:01, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
UK usage edit
I've tried to put the UK usage back to how it was before this set of edits. The official names of the county councils are e.g. "Kent County Council", which means "Kent" "County Council", not "Kent County" "Council" - that is the point that the usage note is explaining. The version I replaced was utterly mangled. 109.155.172.74 21:25, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
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Adjective. I don't think this is attestably used as an adjective in any way distinguishable from attributive use of county#Noun. DCDuring TALK 14:18, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think it's comparable, but it seems to be modified by the adverbs (deprecated template usage) purely and (deprecated template usage) solely. I've added citations. I think the usage notes belong with the noun, though. — Pingkudimmi 15:13, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
- Focus adverbs (from which an anon removed [[solely]] by deleting the context/grammar tag), are not a discriminating test for this purpose, IMHO. DCDuring TALK 15:33, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
- Oh. Well, it didn't seem that great a test the first time. See your comments at WT:RFV#business. I'd like to know what the difference is, precisely. — Pingkudimmi 16:16, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think I can explain without risking violating CGEL's copyright. But, to see the problem, take a look at Google "strictly OR purely OR solely OR especially OR mainly Cadillac" (Books • Groups • Scholar). You can substitute most nouns and get some hits.
- I'm trying to read up a bit on syntactic and lexicographical classes and may eventually be able to offer an explanation. DCDuring TALK 16:24, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
- Oh. Well, it didn't seem that great a test the first time. See your comments at WT:RFV#business. I'd like to know what the difference is, precisely. — Pingkudimmi 16:16, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
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The adjective - looks more like an attributive sense to me. DonnanZ (talk) 14:43, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- Though the citation does seem to be adjectival, not that I can work out the meaning from it. Renard Migrant (talk) 21:19, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- There's definitely attributive uses of the noun, such as county boundary, county court, county council and county town. DonnanZ (talk) 22:59, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- Brief GBC searches for "county style", "county girl", and "county man" suggest both attributive and adjectival senses: typical of a county (or a specific county, e.g. "This York County man who executed the fewest stones is…"[1]) and indicating a relationship or rôle (e.g. "…he uses form 4 in reporting the deficit to his county man.[2]) I did not find cites suggesting, exclusively, noble association. - Amgine/ t·e 14:32, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
- The "York county man" cite looks like York County man rather than York County man. Otherwise, the capitalization makes no sense. The rest of the cites are mostly of the same sort: [Xyz County/county] man, with a few where the context suggests a typo for country, and some with "county man" referring to someone associated with "the county". I see no adjectival usage in your links at all- just attributive. As for the quote in the entry, it's hard to tell exactly what it means- you have to wonder if it's a typo or a scanno for something else ("tall and county"?). Chuck Entz (talk) 04:34, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, that is what I said. The "York County man" is indicating the man is "typical of a county (or a specific county..."
- There's definitely attributive uses of the noun, such as county boundary, county court, county council and county town. DonnanZ (talk) 22:59, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- The "county man" of the 1917 government manual refers to the local official at the county governmental level to whom farmers may address federal agricultural reports and filings. It is used adjectivally to make the distinction between municipal, county, state, regional, and federal levels of governance within agriculture, and was exactly the sense I thought of when I saw this RFV, having grown up in a rural setting myself. - Amgine/ t·e 23:25, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 03:27, 30 May 2017 (UTC)