Talk:háçek

RFV discussion

The discussion text that follows was removed from WT:RFV in this revision. — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 04:37, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

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Google Books can't pick up diacritics well, but this gets only 93 raw Google hits, including Wiktionary. I submit that this spelling, like haĉek, may be a misspelling (which we do not accept) rather than an alternative spelling (which we would accept if it had three citations). (haċek gets only one raw Google hit — us — but it has enough citations that I am not RFV-ing it. hac̬ek also gets only one hit; it is odd; I may RFV it later.) - -sche (discuss) 02:27, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

〈Ç〉 represents [ʧ] in Albanian, Azerbaijani, Friulian, Pashto, Tatar, Turkish, Turkmen, and Zazaki, so there is some support for the idea that *(deprecated template usage) háçek can be used with any one of those languages in mind. That said, I draw your attention to the parts of this sentence (from the 1996 quot. which supports the entry) I emphasise with emboldenment: "Thus the háçek is an accent in the Czech and Croatian languages such as we see over the name of Beneš or Dubçek." Wikipedia has no article for a "Dubçek", but it does have one for Dubček. I gather, from the source's use of *(deprecated template usage) háçek and the misspelling (outside of Turkish) *(deprecated template usage) Dubçek in the same sentence and from the fact that it exemplifies the háček as a diacritic that occurs over the names (deprecated template usage) Beneš and (deprecated template usage) Dubçek, that the source's use of *(deprecated template usage) háçek and *(deprecated template usage) Dubçek both stem from some character encoding problem. As such, *(deprecated template usage) háçek is a mechanical misspelling in the entry's supporting quotation.

(deprecated template usage) Haċek uses a tečka instead of a háček (the former was the form of the diacritic preferred by Hus, but time and usage favoured the latter); (deprecated template usage) hac̬ek is used (self-referentially) to specify a háček written beneath (rather than atop) a letter ("an understrike hac̬ek", as the 1992 quot. puts it), as exemplified by 〈b̬〉.

 — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 03:42, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

RFV failed. Entry deleted. — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 04:31, 25 February 2012 (UTC)