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Pronúncia paroxítona de civil

Não é só cível que é assim? — Ungoliant ^(falai) 16:27, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Essa palavra é um tanto estranha. Tem a mesma etimologia de civil e parece ter sido criada especificamente para ser um sinônimo de civil em sentidos jurídicos. Artigos da Wikipédia, como este, e a maioria das páginas pela web só empregam civil mesmo e essa distinção também parece não existir em espanhol, italiano ou francês. Pode ser que, se empregado em termos jurídicos, /'si.viw/ seja uma pronúncia válida para civil, mas não tenho certeza. Sinceramente não sei o que fazer. - Alumnum (talk) 02:25, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Linking to items in definitions

Please don't use {{l|en}} to link to items in definitions. Definitions are always in English so this is meaningless. If you want to make sure that the links go to the correct section, then use {{def}}. This template encloses the entire definition text (but not any label that precedes). —CodeCat 17:13, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Well, does using one template or another make an actual difference? As long as the entries stay the same, I don't see any. - Alumnum (talk) 18:26, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

There is a difference between them. {{def}} does less extra things, it only modifies the links, which makes it lighter. —CodeCat 18:50, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Alright then. - Alumnum (talk) 18:56, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Dutch mistakes

I went through some of your recent edits of Dutch entries and noticed some mistakes you made:

• edelachtbaar is an adjective.
• verdergaan should have an inflection table. If you can't provide one, use {{rfinfl}}. The same applies to any other verb entries that are currently missing a table.
• voortvloeien is a compound, not prefixed.
• eenmalig is derived from eenmaal.
• afsplitsing had an incorrect diminutive.
• herbruikbaar is made from herbruiken. her- is only prefixed to verbs.

—CodeCat 01:07, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanations and tips. If you don't mind, I'd appreciate if you keep letting me know of future mistakes you notice me making. Additionally, I think I can justify some of them:

• I originally intended to create edelachtbaar as it is (an adjective), but since it's a translation of your Honor I thought it was used as a pronoun.
• The diminutive of afsplitsing is afsplitsingetje according to the Dutch Wiktionary, which I usually take as a reference for new entries. See here.

- Alumnum (talk) 01:32, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

• I fixed the diminutive in the Dutch Wiktionary too. Maybe someone somewhere out there says it that way, but it sounds weird to me.
• Usually edelachtbare is used as a form of address. But it's really just a substantivised form of the adjective (i.e. it's a noun).

—CodeCat 11:54, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

• haverklap is certainly not inherited from Middle Dutch clap.
• sterten doesn't actually exist in Middle Dutch.
• The two etymologies of rekken should be split into sections accordingly. Plural forms of nouns are categorised separately from other noun forms in Dutch.
• röntgen is a unit of measure. An x-ray picture is röntgenfoto.
• Non-lemma forms shouldn't have derived terms, as on gronde.
• opper is not an independent word, so words can't be compounds of it, like oppermachtig.
• hersen is not an independent word either.

—CodeCat 18:47, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Category:Dutch words prefixed with weg-

Don't create blank categories. Either create them with the text {{auto cat}} or wait for a bot to do it. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 20:23, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Def template

There's no consensus for the universal deployment of this template, and if there were, it would be done by bot. Because we have to manually mark each of your edits as patrolled, what you're doing is a waste of both your time and of the admins' time. Please stop. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 20:40, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Please stop adding this template. There isn't consensus for its use. —Granger (talk · contribs) 14:04, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

There isn't consensus for its use, but there isn't either consensus not to use it. Adding this template to entries does not harm anything, so I wonder who's really wasting their time. - Alumnum (talk) 03:43, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

There is consensus not to use it. The RFDO discussion was closed as "delete" and the template will presumably be deleted once it has been removed from articles. Stop adding it. —Granger (talk · contribs) 12:56, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Can you provide the link to that discussion? - Alumnum (talk) 16:50, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

It's very easy to search a wiki. Among the many tools are plain search, plain search limited by namespace (eg, Wiktionary: ), "What links here". You can follow any clue and find your way quickly. DCDuring (talk) 21:04, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

I didn't see any clear consensus here. And the consensus here is against "allowing automatic and semi-automatic edits to ensure that all definitions of English entries are within {{def}}", which is not the case here. - Alumnum (talk) 22:41, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

The consensus was evaluated by administrator DTLHS; it is not your call to make. Stop adding the template. —Granger (talk · contribs) 06:08, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Do admins have a special power in determining what is the consensus? There were 4 votes for and 4 votes against; that is not a consensus. It would be if most users have agreed upon a solution. I'm not going to stop using the template. - Alumnum (talk) 06:22, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

• Chiming in with data.

From the discussion at [[Wiktionary:Requests_for_deletion/Others#Template:def]], I compiled the following results. Editors who said "delete or deprecate" are counted as "delete"; those who said only "deprecate" are counted as "deprecate".

Name	Delete	Deprecate	Keep	Notes
Dan Polansky	Delete
Angr			Keep
Ungoliant			Keep
SemperBlotto	Delete
sche	Delete
Erutuon		Deprecate
Chuck	Delete
CodeCat			Keep	for now
Dixtosa	Delete
DCDuring	Delete
Granger	Delete
PseudoSkull			Keep
Suzukaze-c			Keep	for now
DTLHS	Delete
Alumnum			Keep
Totals	8	1	6	(of which, 2 are "for now")

HTH, ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 22:38, 20 August 2018 (UTC)