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StandardishEdit

Hi! Not really, no. A standardish white bra is not "a little like a standard white bra", it is a white bra that is standard. Leasnam (talk) 04:08, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I see where it could be taken either way; yet I do not always use -ish to mean "somewhat like", it really depends on how it's stressed. Leasnam (talk) 04:13, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Hmm... it seems strange. A white bra that's standard is definitely a "standard white bra", and you'd think that a "standardish" one is one that is more or less / approximately standard. Why "ish" unless there is a question about it? Do other adjectives behave this way? Equinox 04:16, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
There are others. Take childish...childish is not "somewhat like a child", it's "like a child"; same with foolish, standoffish, prudish, bookish, etc. where it's used to create an adjectival form, separate from implying any notion of "somewhat-ness" Leasnam (talk) 04:17, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
But I see that what I alluded to above can actually be read like standard-ish...I'm not disputing that. I just didn't read it that way initially, but it can be taken to simply mean "standard"/"standard-like" as well Leasnam (talk) 04:22, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
The difference is that "child", "fool", "book" are nouns, so the "-ish" is expected to mean "resembling (noun)", whereas "standard" is already an adjective, and adding "ish" gives you another adjective: this tends to suggest vagueness, e.g. "coldish". Equinox 04:38, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
That's right...go on...standard is an adjective and a noun, so it can be both--precisely the way I originally had it: Sense #1 "characteristic of noun x"; and #2 "somewhat like adjective y"...so why then did you change it? Leasnam (talk) 04:57, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
I think it's pretty clear that "standard-ish" doesn't mean "somewhat like a standard" ("this Internet specification document is standard-ish"?!) but "somewhat standard" ("the behaviour is standardish, but not entirely standard"). It's Adj+ish, not Noun+ish. Equinox 04:59, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
"somewhat like a standard", no, but "characteristic of or like the standard", I think yes, right?. Descriptions like "high standardish", "right standardish"→"rigid standardish", "double standardish", etc...also help to reinforce this in my mind. In some instances, you can think of "this document is standard-ish" as this document is "like or conforms to the standard we uphold for documents"...at least that is how I have always interpreted it all my life Leasnam (talk) 05:26, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
"High standardish": 1 result in Google Books. "Right standardish": zero. "Double standardish": two? You can't take nonce words as everyday forms. Equinox 05:41, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Those were only clear-cut examples. Of the four cites, only the bra one I can see as either or. But I do certainly see what you are saying...but I still it see the other way too :\ Leasnam (talk) 05:52, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
There's "gold standardish" as well. Just 2 :) Leasnam (talk) 05:54, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
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