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Again, welcome! Mglovesfun (talk) 14:33, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


Each language gets its own section, you can't just change Hiligaynon to Hiligaynon, Cebuano and Tagalog. Mglovesfun (talk) 06:05, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

-とう wordsEdit

Did you even read through the posts I left for you?

  1. Talk:ありがとう#Sound_shifts_and_derivations
  2. User_talk:Eirikr#.E3.81.82.E3.82.8A.E3.81.8C.E3.81.A8.E3.81.86

Please get yourself a decent 国語辞典. All of the ones I've looked at so far that provide etymology information also include mention of the たく > とう shift for ありがとう and おめでとう, and the related やく > よう shift for おはよう.

Also have a look at the ja:w:音便 article, particularly the ウ音便 section, which explicitly mentions the /-aku/ > /-au/ > /-ō/ shift.

Posting on the Talk page to request references would come across as neutral and interested in more information. Simply adding {{unreferenced}} ([1], [2]), when very few entries anywhere here have references anyway, just comes across as churlish. If that was not your intent, that's fine, but you should know that that's how it comes across. -- Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 21:59, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

If you don't have access to local copies of 国語辞典, dead-tree or otherwise, you might benefit by looking at, and These two are aggregator sites, and will often show multiple generally reputable dictionary hits for a given term. By way of shortcut, you can try adding the term you're looking for to the end of the URLs or Sometimes different okurigana will produce different results -- for instance, searching for 有難い at Kotobank shows a hit for the Daijisen entry, while the Daijirin entry is given under 有り難い・有難い・難有い. I've compared what Kotobank and Weblio both show against my local copies of these dictionaries, and it doesn't look like the websites are leaving anything out. It also looks like Weblio might be slightly easier to use, in that the search results are a bit looser in useful ways -- searching for 有難い on Weblio produces more valid hits than at Kotobank, suggesting that Kotobank's search algorithm might be overly specific. Anyway, 参照まで。-- Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 07:51, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
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