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Wiktionary:Votes/2015-11/Namespace abbreviations

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Namespace abbreviations edit

Voting on: Creating shortcuts for some namespaces, the same as existing "WT:" → "Wiktionary:" and "WS:" → "Wikisaurus:".

Schedule:

  • Vote starts: 00:00, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  • Vote ends: 23:59, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Discussions:

CAT: → Category: edit

Support edit
  1.   Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Support --WikiTiki89 19:18, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3.   Support —JohnC5 20:11, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  4.   Support —Andrew Sheedy (talk) 19:05, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  5.   Support —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:53, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  6.   Support - DCDuring TALK 12:57, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose edit
  1.   Oppose Unless purely for search bar. Consistency with other wikis is more important than saving a few keystrokes. Pengo (talk) 15:14, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    As near as I can tell, this isn't inconsistent. Wikipedia has no consistent abbreviation, but does use CAT: for some pages. —ObsequiousNewt (εἴρηκα|πεποίηκα) 15:48, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Abstain edit

Template: edit

Support T: → Template: edit
  1.   Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    I prefer this one over the others. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 22:22, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Support --WikiTiki89 19:18, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3.   Support —JohnC5 20:11, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  4.   Support —suzukaze (t・c) 23:04, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  5.   Support —Andrew Sheedy (talk) 19:06, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  6.   Support - DCDuring TALK 12:33, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support TP: → Template: edit
  1.   Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Oppose any more than one alias for each namespace. It's unnecessary, confusing to new users, and just makes a mess. (Note, this is not the same as my "technically impossible" votes below; there is no limit to the number of aliases a namespace can have.) This, that and the other (talk) 12:24, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Per the talk page, it's going to be only one alias per namespace: the one with more votes. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:48, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support TEMP: → Template: edit
  1.   Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Oppose any more than one alias for each namespace. It's unnecessary, confusing to new users, and just makes a mess. (Note, this is not the same as my "technically impossible" votes below; there is no limit to the number of aliases a namespace can have.) This, that and the other (talk) 12:24, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Per the talk page, it's going to be only one alias per namespace: the one with more votes. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:48, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose edit
  1.   Oppose Consistency with other wikis and clarity are more important. If it were only for the search bar I'd support. We already have {{temp}} for linking to templates. Pengo (talk) 14:42, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Abstain edit

Module: edit

Support M: → Module: edit
  1.   Technically impossible. A namespace "M:" would conflict with m:, an interwiki prefix for Meta-Wiki. This, that and the other (talk) 22:29, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    My mistake. Since it's technically impossible, I guess we can ignore this option, supporting it wouldn't do any good. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support MO: → Module: edit
  1.   Technically impossible as this is an interwiki prefix for the "Moldovan" Wiktionary. This spurious project has been closed since 2007, but remains available, and in particular, its interwiki prefix is still active. There is a request to delete this wiki on Meta, which was opened almost two years ago and has seemingly reached consensus for deletion since then, but still has not been closed. If the community really wants "MO:" as a namespace alias, we could ask m:User talk:MarcoAurelio (or another Language Committee member) if they are prepared to close the request for deletion and officially ask the WMF Board of Trustees to authorise the deletion of the site. This, that and the other (talk) 08:50, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    My mistake. Since it's technically impossible, I guess we can ignore this option, supporting it wouldn't do any good. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support MD: → Module: edit
  1.   Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Support —JohnC5 20:11, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support MOD: → Module: edit
  1.   Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Support --WikiTiki89 19:19, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3.   Support —JohnC5 20:11, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  4.   Support —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:52, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose edit
  1.   Oppose Inconsistent with other wikis for the sake of a 3 keystrokes. Support if it is purely for the search bar. Pengo (talk) 14:44, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, only search. —Aryamanarora (मुझसे बात करो) 02:46, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That does not seem to be the case. At Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2015/December#Search bar abbreviations, I listed some different uses of namespace abbreviations, the search bar being only one of them. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:51, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Abstain edit

Appendix: edit

Support A: → Appendix: edit
  1.   Support: I prefer this one, it's a bit shorter than the other option. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Support —JohnC5 20:11, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3.   Support —Andrew Sheedy (talk) 19:07, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  4.   Support either - DCDuring TALK 12:54, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support AP: → Appendix: edit
  1.   Support --WikiTiki89 19:19, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Support I prefer the clarity of AP but am fine with both. —JohnC5 20:11, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3.   Support this one because it is far less likely to come into future conflict with any WMF projects, although I do not explicitly oppose the other option. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 22:17, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  4.   Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 22:18, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  5.   Support Pengo (talk) 14:45, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  6.   Support —Andrew Sheedy (talk) 19:07, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  7.   Support —Aryamanarora (मुझसे बात करो) 02:07, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  8.   Support either - DCDuring TALK 12:54, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose edit
Abstain edit

RC: → Reconstruction: edit

Support edit
  1.   Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 17:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Support --WikiTiki89 19:20, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3.   Support —JohnC5 20:11, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  4.   Support Pengo (talk) 14:45, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  5.   Support —Andrew Sheedy (talk) 19:07, 11 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  6.   Support —Aryamanarora (मुझसे बात करो) 02:08, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose edit
Abstain edit

H: → Help: edit

Support edit
  1.   Support --Daniel Carrero (talk) 22:22, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Support It would make it ever so slightly less work to improve and add the Help pages this wiki needs. - DCDuring TALK 12:53, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose edit
  1.   Oppose because essentially useless, given how few help pages we link to and how short the word "help" is, and there is a chance that a one-letter shortcut could become used by WMF in the future. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:52, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2.   Oppose as per Μετάknowledge, especially that last reason. —Aryamanarora (मुझसे बात करो) 02:08, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Abstain edit
  1.   Abstain No objection, but do we really use this namespace enough to warrant giving it an alias? This, that and the other (talk) 12:27, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Decision edit

CAT: passes 6-1 (with no other options), T: passes 6-1 (with other options failing), MOD: passes 4-1 (MD: passes 2-1, but if I am interpreting the design of this vote correctly, MOD: will be chosen instead; the other options are technically impossible and fail), AP: passes 8-0 (A: passes 4-0, but see note for MOD:), RC: passes 6-0, H: has no consensus with 2-2-1. @Daniel Carrero (or anybody else), feel free to open a request on Phabricator for all the ones that passed to get abbreviations. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 16:22, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Has someone started this? @Daniel Carrero? —JohnC5 19:32, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
phab:T123187 --Daniel Carrero (talk) 13:38, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It would appear that this has been implemented. —JohnC5 07:25, 31 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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