Module talk:zh/data/dial-syn/蓋子

Noun

@The dog2 I'm not sure what you intended this module for originally, but I've moved to 蓋子 as the noun form. The terms you put did not look like it was a noun, so did you mistakenly put a noun sense in the gloss? Could you check the Singaporean Mandarin and Hokkien terms? — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 21:14, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: 崁 can also be used as a noun. For instance, in Singapore, a face mask can be called 喙崁. And if you look here in sense 1, it is used as a noun in Taiwanese Hokkien too. 冚 can also be used as a noun in Teochew if you look here. The dog2 (talk) 21:20, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

@The dog2: I believe those uses can't really be called 蓋(子) in Mandarin (at least for Hokkien)? — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 21:41, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

@The dog2: Okay, I looked around and maybe they could be. I could add those back. But I don't see this usage in the Penang dictionary. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 21:54, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: OK, the Penang one was my mistake. I probably assumed that since it's used as both a verb and noun in Singapore, it would be too in Penang. The dog2 (talk) 21:59, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

@The dog2: No worries. Is kòa used in Singaporean Hokkien? — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 22:00, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Justinrleung: Speaking of which, would you say that Teochew 冚 is actually the same as Hokkien 崁? The dog2 (talk) 22:01, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: I've not heard it myself, but perhaps Singaporelang can give a second opinion on this. The dog2 (talk) 22:03, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

@The dog2: Yes, when it's khàm / kam3. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 22:03, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

@The dog2 @Justinrleung Yes, my impression is that kòa is used more commonly than khàm to mean cover in Singapore Hokkien. As for Teochew 冚, it could be related to Hokkien 崁. Singaporelang (talk) 14:50, 1 January 2023 (UTC)