Talk:deluge
Hmm, I'm wondering if noun #3 (Biblical Deluge) should be separated in a capitalized entry... Kipmaster 20:48, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
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Rfd-sense "(military engineering) A damage control system on navy warships which is activated by excessive temperature within the Vertical Launching System."
One thing which is certain is that deluge systems are not exclusive to military engineering, or navies, or ships. Deluge systems are used for land-based rockets for sure, and I think many other applications. What remains then is whether deluge on its own is sufficiently supported in the sense of "a system which deluges", and, if so, how many distinct senses should be here. This is perhaps more of a cleanup, but the sense as written shouldn't remain. - TheDaveRoss 15:51, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I've just cleaned it up and added another cite for that sense; does it look better now? Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 00:37, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Whoop whoop pull up: The cleaned up version is certainly better (though such systems are often not for fire control, but instead for sound mitigation). Both of the cites are for deluge system, so I am still not sure if deluge on its own means such systems. The term deluge system is SOP for a system which deluges. - TheDaveRoss 12:58, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- What are the other uses of deluge systems? Dispersing noxious chemicals into the environment? DCDuring (talk) 20:28, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- @DCDuring Beyond fire suppression it is used for sound suppression or energy absorption. Every system I am aware of deluges with water, but in the world of fire suppression I wouldn't be surprised if other chemicals are used. - TheDaveRoss 18:31, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
- "…, so I am still not sure if deluge on its own means such systems." Yes, it does, at lest people use it this way: I just looked up "deluge" because it was used as a synonym for "flooding system" in a YouTube video covering the rebuild of SpaceX's launchpad for Starship, after this launchpad became badly damaged on its first use, because it was lacking a deluge [system]. I wondered if this is an appropriate use of "deluge", only to discover, that this is debated. I like the current version created by Whoop whoop pull up on 2022-07-07: It is informative and covers exactly this meaning well. Olf, 19:56, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep revised definition. Some opportunity for further improvement of the entry. See “deluge*”, in OneLook Dictionary Search., which has deluge set and deluge gun as firefighting terms, but doesn't seem to give deluge on its own a distinct fire-fighting definition. But those terms + deluge system would seem to provide support for deluge as a term in itself. Also see
Deluge on Wikipedia.Wikipedia . I gather that the term is normally used where any ingredient other than water in the deluge (either literal or fire-fighting sense) is incidental. It does seem to be a noun used attributively, though calling an adjective might be supportable. DCDuring (talk) 18:50, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
- If we can't find usage of deluge in the fire-fighting sense in any of the most common noun roles (subject of verb, object of verb or of preposition), it would be better if we had three cites using deluge attributively with different nouns, like gun, boat, set, method. DCDuring (talk) 19:13, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
- Keep revised definition. Some opportunity for further improvement of the entry. See “deluge*”, in OneLook Dictionary Search., which has deluge set and deluge gun as firefighting terms, but doesn't seem to give deluge on its own a distinct fire-fighting definition. But those terms + deluge system would seem to provide support for deluge as a term in itself. Also see
- What are the other uses of deluge systems? Dispersing noxious chemicals into the environment? DCDuring (talk) 20:28, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Whoop whoop pull up: The cleaned up version is certainly better (though such systems are often not for fire control, but instead for sound mitigation). Both of the cites are for deluge system, so I am still not sure if deluge on its own means such systems. The term deluge system is SOP for a system which deluges. - TheDaveRoss 12:58, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Kept. bd2412 T 02:15, 20 July 2023 (UTC)