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  1. To obtain from something else. For instance (from Wiktionary's definition of Idiomaticity): An expression is “idiomatic” if its full meaning cannot be easily derived from the meaning of its separate components.


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The definitions are a bit vague, some example sentences would do good. I often have this problem. Wouldn’t it be a good idea to create a new template in the style of {{rfp}} just for this purpose? henne 09:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

{{rfex}}? --Connel MacKenzie 09:40, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually, WT:TTBC#Requests for English example sentences already exists for this purpose. "Request for examples" (rfex) might be quite a bit clearer, though. It could also have a lang= parameter. --Connel MacKenzie 09:43, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Indeed, I had seen WT:TTBC#Requests for English example sentences before, but forgotten about it. But as you see, it isn’t very active and organised. I would propose it be treated in a similar manner as this page and WT:RFD, and a similar template. That way, the page would become more useful. Also, it is much easier to insert {{rfex}} than to browse to that page and add an entry... henne 16:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree that WT:TTBC never was a very good fit for this sort of request. It certainly never became particularly active. --Connel MacKenzie 18:45, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
You could always put it in the queue for Collaboration of the Week instead of creating a whole new template for the one entry. --EncycloPetey 18:35, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I dunno. I'm becoming more enamored with specific cleanup tags these days. Example sentences are only one tiny portion of the WT:COW efforts. A separate indication somewhere, that just clearer examples are needed seems like it could be useful. And henne did say this is a common problem. Offhand, I'm inclined to agree. --Connel MacKenzie 18:43, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I haven’t been looking at this page for a while, but be sure I’ll use it from now on! henne 13:13, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
More to the point, I don't see the harm in having this particular template {{rfex}}. If it doesn't work out, you can glean entries for COW from it when it gets deleted, right? Should I be bold here, or was there something else? --Connel MacKenzie 00:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
OK, I've been bold. Let's see how many User:Hamaryns adds it to, in a week's time, shall we? --Connel MacKenzie 01:13, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
I removed the RFC tag, adding {{rfex}}, by the way. --Connel MacKenzie 17:05, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
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