Talk:enshield
Latest comment: 1 year ago by Flackofnubs in topic RFD discussion: March–December 2022
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Rfd-sense: adjective. (attested only in the quotation below). If that's true, this doesn't pass CFI, albeit a Shakespeare quote Notusbutthem (talk) 20:37, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
- Shakespeare couldn't even spell his own name correctly. He meant enshielded. Delete. DAVilla 21:30, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
- No one was obliged to spell words correctly until a certain Samuel Johnson published a dictionary. It’s sad to see these nonce words go; can’t we at least have an Appendix page for them…? Weak delete and transfer the quotation to enshielded as an alternative form. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 12:38, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Given the place that Shakespeare has in the development of the English language, and the fact that his works are still widely studied which makes it likely that people will look up unfamiliar words found therein, I would agree either to an exception from the CFI or the creation of an appendix for such words. (Would that turn up in searches, or would we need to create redirects from such entries to the appendix?) — SGconlaw (talk) 19:17, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- No one was obliged to spell words correctly until a certain Samuel Johnson published a dictionary. It’s sad to see these nonce words go; can’t we at least have an Appendix page for them…? Weak delete and transfer the quotation to enshielded as an alternative form. ·~ dictátor·mundꟾ 12:38, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Apparently there exists Shakespeare scholarship on this single word: see for example "On the Meaning of 'Enciel'd' in Measure For Measure", Arnold Cassola, June 1990 in English Language Notes Volume XXVII, Number 4. There isn't even consensus as to whether the form is textually sound. The Folio reads en-shield: it's usually emended to enshield, but some editors emend to enshelled, and at least one to enciel'd (en- + ciel + -ed, supposedly modeled on incielare). Glosses in literature include 'concealed,' 'emblazoned,' 'shielded,' 'enshilded '(i.e. shielded from view =hidden), 'heavenly,' and 'placed in heaven.' It's a shame to see Shakespearian nonce words go, and I would support an appendix in line with what @Sgconlaw is suggesting, but in this case scholars aren't sure about either the text or its meaning.
- Keep, if a word is used in Shakespeare we ought to have an entry for it, it is highly likely to be looked up. - TheDaveRoss 15:08, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as insufficiently attested. I don't object to content being moved to an appendix if someone wants to do that. - excarnateSojourner (talk | contrib) 06:11, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- Deleted sense, Citation moved to Citation page Flackofnubs (talk) 09:33, 23 December 2022 (UTC)