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Second (redundant) sense. --Connel MacKenzie 16:44, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

They don't seem distinct to me, but it's the second that's more general. I would merge them. DAVilla 04:32, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
I think I would merge them as well. --EncycloPetey 15:54, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Although essentially the same, the possibly artificial distinction made here may be helpful to ESL readers. Examples added (which would each apply to a merged definition). 16:05, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
No reason to not keep the addition example sentences, but it is wrong to call them separate senses. Merging defs, keeping examples. --Connel MacKenzie 04:12, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

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