Talk:patient

I would add the Latin tranlation "patiens" myself but I'm not good with the markup. --Logomachist 19:23, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Now added. --EncycloPetey 19:29, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

RFV discussion: December 2015Edit

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Rfv-sense — Noun sense One who, or that which, is passively affected; a passive recipient. The undated citation has been repeated by dictionaries since Johnson and I can't find the original source. — Pingkudimmi 09:45, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

I can't find your original source for that undated citation in a machine-readable version, but I found other cites from the same work. Also, there are a number of other citations out there to support this meaning, which seems related to the linguistic/grammer meaning (sense 2). It is typically (but not always -- see the 1994 cite) found in philosophy, and traces back to Aristotle:
  • 1988, Sarah Waterlow & ‎Sarah Broadie, Nature, Change, and Agency in Aristotle's Physics, ISBN 0198244827, page 159:
    For it seems clear that the subject of change is the changed, i.e. the patient -- on one proviso. the proviso is that there be an agent or changer.
  • 1994, Larry Cochran & ‎Joan Laub, Becoming an Agent: Patterns and Dynamics for Shaping Your Life, ISBN 0791417190:
    How does a person change from a patient to an agent in shaping and living a course of life?
  • 1999, Lloyd P. Gerson, Aristotle: Logic and metaphysics, ISBN 0415148855, page 127:
    According to the tradition, when an agent acts on a patient, the change is located in the patient. If the patient reacts on the agent, then the agent is a patient in the new relation.
  • 2010, Mohua Banerjee & ‎Anil Seth, Logic and Its Applications: Fourth Indian Conference, ICLA 2011, ISBN 3642180256, page 7:
    The starting point is that all events involve an agent and a patient. Agents and patients are modelled as (material or non-material) objects, and can therefore be represented as points in conceptual spaces.
Kiwima (talk) 17:26, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Looks good.— Pingkudimmi 03:39, 23 December 2015 (UTC)


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