Talk:TARDIS
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"A fictional time machine and spacecraft" (the specific one in Doctor Who and nowhere else). Generic sense (a structure with interior apparently larger than exterior) was broken out and moved to (deprecated template usage) Tardis a while ago. Equinox ◑ 15:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
- Keep and send to RFV, unless you think the quotes I've added are sufficient to satisfy CFI. If, not RFV and I'll add more; there are plenty I've not included. TARDIS is one of about two or three Doctor Who derived words that really do have lexical value outside the programme's fictional universe. There is a whole generation of young Brits who see an authentic police box from the 60's or 70's and think "It's a TARDIS." The sci-fi icon has actually supplanted recognition of the generic object it was originally modelled upon. --EncycloPetey 01:18, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Keep, why not just use
{{alternative capitalization of}}? Why delete this, but keep Tardis? Mglovesfun (talk) 10:12, 10 April 2010 (UTC)- I don't know why the figurative sense was moved to Tardis and the specific TV object kept at TARDIS, as I didn't do it. I'd be happy with an alternate-caps entry; I'm just saying we should have the "big room" sense but not the "specific TV time machine" one. Equinox ◑ 11:13, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry yes, move that to the etymology. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:17, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Why? Have you looked at the quotations, which do mention something capable of travel but do not mention the TV programme nor the bigger-on-the-inside aspect? --EncycloPetey 15:40, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- 2000 is talking about a specific episode of the programme ("The Master" is one of the villains); 2001 is talking about the making of the prop for the thing in the programme. Perhaps the others are okay, but I am suspicious because they all seem to be dealing with "the Tardis" (requiring knowledge of the programme and the specific thing) and never "a Tardis". I wonder whether anyone has grown up knowing what "Tardis" is and not being aware of Doctor Who. Perhaps something like Batarang (weapon used only by Batman but often referenced in a pop-culturey manner in other texts) is comparable. Equinox ◑ 15:46, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Did I claim that every single quote met the criterion? No. Some quotes were added to show the variability of capitalization, rather than simply to bolster inclusion. Quotes are quotes. We don't leave out quotes just because don't satisfy our minimum inclusion requirements. Additional quotations outside that scope are informative in other ways. I say again: "looked at the quotations, which do mention something capable of travel but do not mention the TV programme nor the bigger-on-the-inside aspect". I did not say to look at all quotes I added. The requisite three quotes are there.
- 2000 is talking about a specific episode of the programme ("The Master" is one of the villains); 2001 is talking about the making of the prop for the thing in the programme. Perhaps the others are okay, but I am suspicious because they all seem to be dealing with "the Tardis" (requiring knowledge of the programme and the specific thing) and never "a Tardis". I wonder whether anyone has grown up knowing what "Tardis" is and not being aware of Doctor Who. Perhaps something like Batarang (weapon used only by Batman but often referenced in a pop-culturey manner in other texts) is comparable. Equinox ◑ 15:46, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Why? Have you looked at the quotations, which do mention something capable of travel but do not mention the TV programme nor the bigger-on-the-inside aspect? --EncycloPetey 15:40, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry yes, move that to the etymology. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:17, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know why the figurative sense was moved to Tardis and the specific TV object kept at TARDIS, as I didn't do it. I'd be happy with an alternate-caps entry; I'm just saying we should have the "big room" sense but not the "specific TV time machine" one. Equinox ◑ 11:13, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- Keep, why not just use
- And yes, if you like, I can add more quotes about "a Tardis", even dating back to 1965 from the programme itself. The particular TARDIS possessed by the show's main character is usually referred to as "the TARDIS" throughout the series and in accompanying publications, but it's apparent from 1965 onwards that it is not a unique object even within the context of the programme. There are many other such ships. It's a bit like "the Sea", which means a different sea depending on where you are, except that in this case, 99% of the references are to the specific ship operated by the Doctor. Most people (even those who know) refer to his ship as the TARDIS, while referring to the others as "the Master's TARDIS", "the Rani's TARDIS", "the Monk's TARDIS", "Drax's TARDIS", etc. With "the" it's a particular timeship, but the word itself is not so limited in all situations. --EncycloPetey 16:09, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Kept. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:16, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Striking as RFD kept; already half-striken by Mglovesfun. --Dan Polansky 12:25, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
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RFV-sense "Temporal Analysis, Reconnaissance and Decision Integration System". That phrase gets all of 1 hit on Google Books, and only about 140 raw Google hits. - -sche (discuss) 05:49, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- All the Google hits are either from Wiktionary, or refer to the same study as in the book. Exterminate. Keith the Koala (talk) 19:39, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- RFV-failed. - -sche (discuss) 02:35, 6 August 2015 (UTC)