Talk:about that life

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Amin in topic Tea room discussion

Is this not covered by about (concerned with; engaged in; intent on)? IOW, can "that life" stand alone to mean "thug life", or alternatively does it have to refer back to a previous mention of "thug life"? Equinox 12:51, 31 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

I am not even sure if it is used exclusively to refer to the "thug life." There are many quotes which are clearly not, but that might be allusive.
  • "“I notice a lot of these girls, they would like to win a UFC belt and have that respect, but they’re not about that life,” Rousey recently stated on “The Joe Rogan Experience” podcast." (source)
  • "Pokémon are usually cute creatures. That’s part of the appeal. But the upcoming Pokémon fighting game is not about that life." (source)
There are lots more like those, which could go either way. - TheDaveRoss 13:06, 31 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

We had a good definition: Being favourable towards an ostentatious lifestyle, or any other context that is indicated. Anyone can understand this. We went from this, to something that is hard to understand and needs heavy processing by the readers brain, in order to be understood. I propose we revert it back. Unless someone has good ground to keep the current one, I welcome discussion. Amin wordie (talk) 01:11, 7 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Originally entered as a thug life thing, but since broadened to any kind of lifestyle. Therefore (see Talk:about that life) I think this is just about (concerned with; engaged in; intent on) + "that life", referring to a previously mentioned or implied lifestyle, by everyday anaphora. Equinox 00:36, 6 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

Delete. --WikiTiki89 01:16, 6 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
Not so fast. About that life" should be included in Wiktionary.
  • The google search for "about that life" (between quotes) returns 700K returns, and 388K results for the alternative spelling “bout that life” (also between quotes).
  • On Instagram, there are over 400K images published with the tag #aboutthatlife.
  • The saying has appeared in many outlets of popular culture, from song titles to thousands of internet memes.

Conclusion: The saying “About that life” has proven itself over the years, and should be included in Wiktionary. Do not delete it because you are not aware of its importance. There is a lot happening on social media platforms that is closed off, but nevertheless relevant. I request that the deletion-mark be removed ASAP. Amin wordie (talk) 07:35, 6 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

The search "that doesn't make sense" gets 15 million results on Google, that doesn't make it a valid string for inclusion in a dictionary. - TheDaveRoss 13:48, 6 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
  • Hmmm. This is reminiscent of all about which we have as be all about. DCDuring TALK 10:52, 6 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
    • 2015, George T. Lindsey, Mesa Flats Resort Predators and Politics[1], page 403:
      He was a cowboy at heart, like the rest of them, although he had never lived the life of a real cowboy or he might not be fantasizing about that life
      DCDuring TALK 11:02, 6 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
  • I'm having some trouble seeing how the common use of a phrase with an anaphora by a group of people using words in a standard way becomes an idiom because they all have a common anaphora. OTOH, consider the following:
  • 2015, “Women to face trial over street brawl stabbings”, in Allentown Morning Call:
    One of the three woman, Maria Garcia, testified she was stabbed 13 times by Genesis Matos-Ramirez. Matos-Ramirez said during the attack, "I'm all about that life, I will kill you," Garcia testified
Keep DCDuring TALK 15:15, 6 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
Keep Leasnam (talk) 16:18, 6 April 2016 (UTC)Reply
KeepΜετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 04:04, 25 April 2016 (UTC)Reply


Tea room discussion edit

--Barytonesis (talk) 09:51, 2 June 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Barytonesis: thank you, I had not seen this discussion. @SemperBlotto: explained "I'm not about that life" perfectly as "It's not my cup of tea"
I think his explanation is more understandable that the two current definitions. Amin (talk) 11:08, 3 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Amin: You're welcome. If only Tea Room/Etymology Scriptorium discussions were systematically reported on the entries talk pages... --Barytonesis (talk) 18:19, 3 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
@Barytonesis: On both Wiktionary and Wikipedia users have to spend hours reading and writing texts manually just to get a hang of how things work and what is going on. It's a flawed system. All other platforms have integrated human interfaces where all the important info is indicated to users in a way that is easy for them to consume. If only we could start from scratch :). Hope you don't mind my rant. Amin (talk) 18:46, 3 June 2017 (UTC)Reply
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