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Derived/related terms

This should be a level 4 heading, i.e. with 4 = on either side. Thanks for your contributions! —Aryaman^{A (मुझसे बात करें • योगदान)} 20:28, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Your username

You know, I've seen you contributing for several months now, and all this time I was thinking your username is "Go tit, bro". It took me a while to get it! Canonicalization (talk) 21:53, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

@Canonicalization: LOL, didn't think it would be interpreted this way (you are the first one actually). Guess should've used different caps. So what finally made you realize the correct username. Gotitbro (talk) 21:58, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

I don't know, just a eureka moment, I guess :p Canonicalization (talk) 16:27, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Lol I just got this, I was parsing it as one word and it sounded vaguely Italian in my mind... —Aryaman^{A (मुझसे बात करें • योगदान)} 21:19, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Both of you missed the chance to tell him, "Now I Gotitbro". -- Bhagadatta (talk) 03:07, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Nah. I tell you, instead, go tit-bro! PseudoSkull (talk) 00:24, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Your translations

Hi. While adding Hindi translations, you do not have to provide both the nuqta and nuqtaless forms. For borrowed words, the nuqta form is the most common one (besides being a faithful phonemic representation of the foreign sounds as opposed to the nuqtaless orthography for such words), so only add the nuqta forms for these. As such, the nuqtaless forms are listed by us as alternative spellings, and it is the nuqta forms that have their main entry; so while adding translations for any languages, generally provide the main entry forms only. Thanks —inqilābī ^{[inqilāb zindabād]} 14:18, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

@Inqilābī: I don't see anything wrong with providing both translations, there are no restrictions on putting only the main lemma in translations (Chinese trans contain both trad. and simpl. for example). Gotitbro (talk) 16:24, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

@Gotitbro: Chinese is a whole other thing: many people know only either of the Traditional or the Simplified characters, which is why it is done so for Chinese. But for Hindi, it is redundant to show both the nuqta & the nuqtaless forms, inasmuch as the nuqta is only a diacritic whose presence or absence in a Devanāgarī letter does not make any difference in readableness. I am strongly against providing both translations. Let us also see what @AryamanA opines. —inqilābī ^{[inqilāb zindabād]} 12:04, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

@Inqilābī, Gotitbro: I agree that we do not need to have the nuqtaless forms as translations. The nuqtaless variants are not really spelling variations or orthographies; they are either a stylistic choice or due to lack of proper typesetting. Not really comparable to simplified/traditional, where you can't easily predict one from the other and they are used in a standardized way in different places. The nuqta forms are the lemmas anyways. —Aryaman^{A (मुझसे बात करें • योगदान)} 17:13, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

@AryamanA: So could you possibly do a bot operation to remove all such nuqtaless forms in translations? Perhaps that could be quite difficult, but Gotitbro has added many of these. —inqilābī ^{[inqilāb zindabād]} 17:33, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

What's with the aggressive stance against nuqtaless translations and manufacturing consensus against them here. Both are valid spellings and denote different orthographies and pronunciations. Aryaman only pointed out that they are not "need"ed, does not mean that they cannot be added or should be removed altogether. I have still not seen any convincing argument against them here or a point towards a guideline that says alternative spellings cannot be added to translations. @AryamanA: Please clarify whether I can or cannot add nuqtaless translations, I believe they are fine and also link to hiwikt which has mostly nuqtaless forms. Gotitbro (talk) 17:47, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

So @AryamanA how should we proceed? Should the status quo be maintained, or the nuqtaless translations be removed? Either one of these should be made the rule for the sake of consistency, but I prefer the latter. — inqilābī ^{[ inqilāb zindabād ]} 13:09, 18 September 2020 (UTC)