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A belated welcome! Nice to have you on board. Conrad.Irwin 23:46, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

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my storiesEdit

See citations:story. I think my stories is not idiomatic but rather merely my + stories, with story, or at least stories, meaning "soap opera(s)". What do you think?—msh210 22:05, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Ruakh responded further at my talkpage, q.v.—msh210 17:44, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

nouvelle page, ny side, etc.Edit

Hi, when creating a new entry it's best to just click save without typing anything. 50 Xylophone Players talk 18:04, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

I prefer typing. Is that a problem? Mike Halterman 18:05, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

greenlandic?Edit

its a real language eh? just wondering... --72.73.118.252 05:13, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Yep. Check Greenlandic and Kalaallisut. :) Mike Halterman 05:13, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Proper nounsEdit

You've recently created a lot of Greenlandic entries that are marked as a "Proper noun" (correctly), but which were classified in Category:Greenlandic nouns instead of Category:Greenlandic proper nouns. Could you please correct those by using {{infl|kl|proper noun}}? The appropriate category now exists. --EncycloPetey 17:48, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

KalaallisutEdit

Cool! I might do that. Greelandic is such a hard language to put in an english context seeing as most of their adjectives, for example, don't exist on their own but mean "is white" or "is big". How cruel of them! Not sure how I'll get round that problem so i'll just stick with the nouns and verbs for now ;) Jakeybean 20:29, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

kl indexEdit

Hi Mike... nice addiction of the kl Babel template by the way! Just to say that I'm in the middle of renovating and adding to the Greenlandic index, so if in the future you add more Greenlandic entries to wiktionary it would be really useful if you could add them to the index as well if and when you can. Jakeybean 18:51, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Cool! Well I trust your dictionary more than I trust my brain so go ahead ;) Does your dictionary have plurals in by the way? Cause I was just going by what I've learnt so far about forming plurals but their may be some catches that I'm not aware of yet. :) Jakeybean 19:51, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

every little helpsEdit

Here are hundreds of reasons why that move was not appropriate. One of the great things about helping with this project is the opportunity to see how vast the language is and has been, how much more there is to it than what one can learn even in an entire lifetime. That you haven't heard of something is not sufficient reason remove content. It is more appropriate at Wiktionary to put something in to the RfD or RfV process than to delete or move unilaterally. We try to make a cursory check with objective facts before wasting people's time even there. Could you please revert your changes. DCDuring TALK 11:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Come now, the ...bit... version has almost exactly the same number of raw hits; the redirect could reasonably be either way. What would be useful is tagging this with Commonwealth/UK, and the ...bit... version with US. At least mostly. (Mike, feel free to elide this again ;-) Robert Ullmann 13:34, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
I got excited because of the "never heard of it" rationale in the edit summary. Just days ago I had looked at this and, believing it a mistake, checked it out on b.g.c., where I was amazed to find its widespread (former) use. Once something is a redirect, it is a third-class entry, not even appearing in categories, for example. It is a good idea to check such things. It is different than the other: dated, regional, etc. It is an open question as to whether it means or meant the same thing. Frankly, I thought asking for a self-reversion and giving the rationale was nicer or at least more long-term constructive than doing so myself.
I apologize for all the rough edges in the request for the reversion. DCDuring TALK 14:09, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

temblorEdit

I really think at least a US tag is needed. This word is unknown in the UK. Ƿidsiþ 10:25, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't call it "US", unless I'm in the wrong part of the States... - I (and most everyone I know) have never heard of the word. Sorry to but in :) but had to share MHO. L☺g☺maniac chat? 19:26, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
I can bring up citations from the Associated Press, which is the be all and end all at least for journalistic writing in the United States. They use it with nearly 100% frequency when they talk about earthquakes, usually as an "alternative word" when "earthquake" gets too boring. Mike Halterman 19:27, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
OK, yes, but most of my friends tend to say "earthquake" (I can understand the newspaper usage. They tend to use a lot of different words that most of us have never heard of ...) L☺g☺maniac chat? 19:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
A US tag does not mean that everyone in the US has heard of it. It means more or less that people outside the US haven't heard of it. The original tag 'mainly "Southwestern US"' may have been a bit more accurate. Newspapers also may prefer temblor over earthquake for the three letters saved, especially in titles. DCDuring TALK 19:46, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh. I guess I took the region-specific tags to mean "this term is used semi-frequently here as opposed to being unheard of other places" or something like that. Is there a newspaper tag or something because it sounds like that's about the only place it's used? :) L☺g☺maniac chat? 20:18, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
I added "journalism". Mike Halterman 20:23, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Gracias ... L☺g☺maniac chat? 20:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

TranslationsEdit

Please, note that translations should not be capitalized (e.g. feu de Saint-Elme, not Feu de Saint-Elme). Lmaltier 19:19, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

No, it's not a propoer noun in French (nor in any other language, as far as I can tell). Lmaltier 19:26, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

CitationsEdit

Hi there. The Citations tab is used to supply dated examples of the use of the term. See Citations:hydrogen for an example. SemperBlotto 09:59, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

現在のイベントEdit

Hi, the direct translation of current events into Japanese will certainly be 現在のイベント, but it doesn't have idiomatic sense that the original English word has. I have moved the entry to 時事, its corresponding Japanese word. Cheers! --Tohru 10:16, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

YtEdit

Hi Mike. What are your sources for the Danish onomatopoeia yt, describing the sound of a guinea pig? I've never heard it. The most common use is as an adjective in the sense out (of fashion), from the Swedish pronunciation of ut ("out"). The use of the sound from a guinea pig seems encyclopedic, and having it under pronunciation, as changed by Mglovesfun, is ridiculous.--Leo Laursen – (talk · contribs) 11:31, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Rensdyret RudolfEdit

Hi Mike. I don't think Rensdyret Rudolf exists as a proper noun. The most common name is "Rudolf med den røde tud" (Rudolf with the red nose). It's recommended that only the first word is capitalized in long proper nouns. If the actual meaning is "Rudolph the Reindeer", it should probably be "rensdyret Rudolf". Merry Christmas.--Leo Laursen – (talk · contribs) 10:45, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

On a related subject. julemanden is the singular definite of julemand (Father Christmas (no pl.), or someone dressed as him (pl. julemænd)), it's not really a proper noun in Danish.--Leo Laursen – (talk · contribs) 11:01, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

meningen med livet, er den, som man selv ligger i livetEdit

Has been nominated for deletion. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:40, 19 February 2010 (UTC)