Science boy 30

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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! Rodrigo5260 (talk) 02:25, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Narrow transcriptions of Turkish terms

Hi - please don't make changes like this. They just make it harder to read IPA for Turkish, and make it really hard to determine any kind of phonemic understanding of the pronunciation. Theknightwho (talk) 15:00, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Unlike English and French, Turkish is almost always phonemic.So, using a phonemic transcription for Turkish is useless.That is why I always use phonetic transcriptions. Science boy 30 (talk) 16:09, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

@Science boy 30 That isn't really true - it's helpful for learners, and it also covers the situations when Turkish spelling isn't phonemic. The major problem with using really narrow transcriptions, as you're doing, is that it implies a uniformity between speakers that doesn't really exist; even if you only count speakers of the standard language. Theknightwho (talk) 16:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Most Turkish learners do not learn from IPA.Asking native speakers how to pronunce sounds is way better than IPA.Anybody with common sense would not learn IPA just to learn proper pronunciation.Not all foreign language learners want to be a linguist, if they wanted simplicity they would not spend their time trying to learn a so-called 'International alphabet'.And I disagree that it causes uninformity between speakers.

Trying to standardize a language just kills diversity which we linguists oppose.

'When Turkish spelling isn't phonemic'

99% of words in Turkish are phonemic.

Using IPA is no use. Science boy 30 (talk) 16:47, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

@Science boy 30 That isn’t what I said. I said that it implies a uniformity which does not exist. Not that it causes it. Also, your argument implies that we should get rid of IPA altogether - not have these hopelessly narrow transcriptions. Theknightwho (talk) 15:08, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Please stop adding needlessly narrow transcriptions. That's not helpful. Vininn126 (talk) 11:39, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

False Transcriptions of Turkish terms

Hi, please visit the Wikipedia page titled "Turkish phonology" while transcribing Turkish terms. [ᵝ] and [ʷ] don't exist in the standardized dialect as well as the most other dialects, please stop needlessly using them and adding them. /t, d, s, z, n, ɫ/ are not [t̟, d̟, s̟, z̟, n̟, ɫ̟] but [t̪, d̪, s̪, z̪, n̪, ɫ̪] in the standardized Turkish. Please stop changing normal Turkish transcriptions to flawed ones. Kakaeater (talk) 23:02, 7 April 2024 (UTC)