Talk:Shitgibbon
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This might be an issue for RfD. My main question is whether this is actually a proper noun referring to Trump specifically. If you were to call Trump "the Idiot in the White House", that doesn't necessarily make "Idiot" a proper noun meaning "Donald Trump". It comes down to how it's used, so I think an RfV can help resolve this. 98.170.164.88 04:52, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think RFV is the right venue. These are notoriously hard to cite, see #piss drinker. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 11:18, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- It's potentially of etymological value, in that this particular epithet is the reason for the coinage of shitgibbon as a word for the linguistic phenomenon. That being said, it wasn't used in a capitalised sense, and I don't think providing even several cites justifies it being defined as "Donald Trump" any more than it would justify using that definition at "Donald". It's not limited to him (unlike e.g. Cheeto Mussolini, or Shillary to Hillary Clinton). Theknightwho (talk) 12:05, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- If this gets deleted, we could include that information elsewhere, such as in a usage note on shitgibbon. 98.170.164.88 18:09, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I've expanded the etymology of shitgibbon to include the relevant info, but it doesn't involve Shitgibbon directly. From what I've read, it gained traction as a name for Trump for a short while on Scottish Twitter after the 2016 tweet - might be worth seeing if we can dig some things up from around then. Theknightwho (talk) 20:49, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- If this gets deleted, we could include that information elsewhere, such as in a usage note on shitgibbon. 98.170.164.88 18:09, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- Don't seem to be durably archived, but these out these results: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22voted+for+shitgibbon%22&source=hp&ei=BS-yYp6UC4DB0PEPjs-O2AE&iflsig=AJiK0e8AAAAAYrI9FelAq5Ul62GTDBxlQVYqshIBfUCh&ved=0ahUKEwjequPvtb_4AhWAIDQIHY6nAxsQ4dUDCAk&uact=5&oq=%22voted+for+shitgibbon%22&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EANQnwJYnwJg9wZoAXAAeACAAQCIAQCSAQCYAQCgAQKgAQGwAQA&sclient=gws-wiz 2601:644:100:9F20:543B:C5CC:CDB1:2058 20:53, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
- Good finds; they seem to fit the capitalized proper noun sense. Do people think this is sufficient attestation? 98.170.164.88 18:14, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- I'm a bit reluctant when it comes to derogatory nicknames for real people - even if I agree with them - but in this case I can also find articles like this one, which suggests a bit more staying power. Theknightwho (talk) 18:38, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Good finds; they seem to fit the capitalized proper noun sense. Do people think this is sufficient attestation? 98.170.164.88 18:14, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- It's potentially of etymological value, in that this particular epithet is the reason for the coinage of shitgibbon as a word for the linguistic phenomenon. That being said, it wasn't used in a capitalised sense, and I don't think providing even several cites justifies it being defined as "Donald Trump" any more than it would justify using that definition at "Donald". It's not limited to him (unlike e.g. Cheeto Mussolini, or Shillary to Hillary Clinton). Theknightwho (talk) 12:05, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- I’m surprised this hasn’t appeared in Trailer Park Boys given their penchant for saying things like shitbird/shithawk. Overlordnat1 (talk) 19:32, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Failed. - TheDaveRoss 20:36, 3 November 2022 (UTC)