Talk:aquila

Why the v spelling? "qu" seems to be the usual convention (particularly when using that wonder of modern typography, lowercase) even when making the u-vowel/v-consonant distinction. --Brion 19:41 Dec 16, 2002 (UTC)

In Latin there is no "U", v was used instead. -fonzy

That's not really correct; in classical spelling, "u" and "v" were one and the same letter. The capital form (used in inscriptions) was that of our modern capital "V", while the handwritten form tended more towards the curvy form of our modern "U". Somehow in recent centuries the latin script ended up standardized on a mix of capital and handwritten forms, with capitals used for emphasis and initials and the lowercase letters used most of the time. "U" and "v", like "i" and "j", were additionally refactored from simple glyph variants into separate letters -- "v" and "j" began to be used exclusively as consonants and "u" and "i" as vowels. This was carried into modern spelling of Latin as well; modern printed Latin texts use a mix of upper and lowercase letters, modern punctuation, and usually separate "v" and "u" by consonant/vowel. "I" and "j" were commonly separated as well for a while, but this seems to have fallen out of favor, so you'll often find "i" for both vowel and consonant. I've never seen "qv" used in lowercase though, only "qu"; if you feel the need to flaunt conventional spelling and not distinguish the consonantal and vocalic "V/u", use "V" in capital and "u" in lowercase. --Brion

Well I heard that there was never a "u" in Latin and that latin had 25 letters. Also i have seen it spelt Aqvila on Roman artifacts. -fonzy

I presume you mean 23 letters, not 25: ABCDEFGHIKLMNOPQRSTVXYZ. "V" and "u" are the *same* letter, one of those 23. In modern spelling of Latin the pointy and curvy glyph forms are almost always distinguished based on whether serving the consonantal or vocalic role, and "qu" always as "qu".

Well, how about we compare with existing dictionaries and other modern printed Latin texts?

The New College Latin & English Dictionary (1995 revised edition):

http://leuksman.com/misc/aquila.jpg

Langenscheidts Miniatur-Wörterbuch Deutsch-Lateinisch (1952 printing):

http://leuksman.com/misc/adler.jpg

VVHATCANYOVCITETHATISNTPRINTEDINALLCAPSVVITHOVTMODERNPVNCTVATION ;) --Brion

akkadian "ikkillu"

• ik-kil-la-šu; ki-il-lu; kil-lu.

Normalized forms:ikkil (ik-kil); ikkillašu (ik-kil-la-šu); killu (ki-il-lu, kil-lu).

• meaning & occurrences in akkadian scription:

1. clamour (1x/17%) 2. cry (1x/17%) 3. noise (2x/33%) 4. sound (1x/17%) 5. wail (1x/17%)

• "ikkillu" - hebrew meaning - "eat"
• derivative: (ảklt (I) adj./n. f. “devouring”)

Ari-elzoren66 (talk) 15:33, 3 July 2020 (UTC)